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March 16, 1999


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March '99


Mon, 8 Mar 1999
Tired of being colored
I would like to clarify that my objection to the listing in which Redd's is described as "mstly black". I would suggest that you consider removing the description from the listings section because I am sure you are fully aware that at the end of the day, queers in South Africa are very adept at distinguishing what 'on' and what's not and we have established in South Africa a frightfully effective system of 'word-of-mouth'.

Whilst considering this point it is perhaps worthwhile to reflect on who you are actually writing for. Considering,the continued economic disparity in South Africa it is likely that the readership is white and middle class and therefore it becomes redundant to even mention the racial composition of particular clubs as the very establishment become synonymous with the race of its patrons.

Salut
R. Dunn


Sun, 14 Mar 1999
Letter of appreciation

Just a note to say how delighted I was to find your website when looking through the Mail & Guardian's website.

I am currently living and working in London for a few years and have certainly enjoyed the vibrant gay scene in this city. I am very pleased to see though that things in South Africa are also certianly changing and I am looking forward to keeping in touch via your website on what is going on back home. As much as I am really enjoying my time over here in Europe I know that eventually I will be coming back to South Africa as I still believe it is an amazing country with the most wonderful people.

I am also a regular reader of The Guardian over here in the UK and I think it is a first rate newspaper. There support for your website will be yet another very good reason for me to continue reading The Guardian as my newspaper of choice.

I certainly hope you all have a very good 1999.
Regards
Craig Herd CA(SA)

Dear Craig, You must be the first person to make the connection! The Mail and Guardian is the only straight newspaper in the world to have a gay web site. All the more reason to read it. You will from time to time spot The Guardian pieces on Q! Good luck in London. -Ed

February '99


Mon, 22 Feb 1999
"Gays" is offensive

Dear Editor

As someone who has worked with the National Coalition for Gay and Lesbian Equality and been member of the Pride Parade Committee, I am disturbed by the wording, inference and errors made around the "gay rights" chat site.

Firstly, the wording:
"* Gays - Rights of gays; gays and Christianity; current controversies."

"Gays" is felt to be a derogatory term, just as referring to a any group as "Jews" or "whites" is seen to carry a negative conotation and such terms are generally not used freely in the press due to these conotations. The inoffensive way to put it would be "gay and lesbian people". It has also finally been recognised that lesbians do exist, so most women would prefer a reference.

Then saying: "Homosexuality was decriminalised in South Africa in September, but neighbouring countries Zimbabwe and Namibia have moved in the opposite directions, announcing tough new 'anti-gay' legislation."

For the record, homosexuality was NOT decriminalised. It was never in itself criminalised. Consensual same sex unions between men was decriminalised in certain instances, but there are still legal issues.

For the ignorant person, saying that : "Homosexuality was decriminalised in South Africa in September, but neighbouring countries Zimbabwe and Namibia have moved in the opposite directions."... could lead people to believe that being gay or lesbian used to get you locked up in South Africa (which was not the case), and it also infers that getting locked up could be ok.

And the reference to Zim and Namibia, especially with Canaan Banana's case, starts to mix oranges with apples. Banana was tried for sexual assault and sodomy, which has nothing to do with being gay. He committed a crime, but many people are mixing it up and saying that he would have been ok if he had been in SA.

South Africa constitutionally recognises the rights of gay and lesbian people as equal in all cases. Having a debate about gay rights (which according to the constitution are one and the same with human rights) with no intelligent input just gives bigots the chance to express their hatred and add fuel to each others' fire.

I ask you to please change the wording and inference given on you chat site.

Yours sincerely
Renée Bonorchis


Wed, 17 Feb 1999
Andre Voster Fukkie Tukkie

Is Andre on your staff? I had to smile at his adventure at Tuks. I lived in one of the res' in the early eighties. I wish I had that experience of a man sleeping over in my res room!

I now live in New York and just stumbled onto your web site - I am enjoying cathing up on gay news in SA. Keep up the good work!

Regards,
Peter Ennis.


Sat, 13 Feb 1999
your terminology

Why would you label yourselves as "queers"? I'm a straight female and find the term very offensive. I can assure you that nowhere in the world would that be acceptable. It is for this reason some people are still in the closet. They fear being labelled "queer". Come on guys....and gals please think of a new word we are moving into the 21 Century!
Cheers! Mary.
Ex-Captonian from Vancouver


Tue, 3 February 1999
Q gets updated hourly?
Here is a big CLAP - I have been on Q at least 2 times today and I have to applaude you - The news section gets updated on a hourly basis by the looks of thing and I have noticed that The People Board has changed names... hopefully it will eliminate the aggravation... and my stress level.. GOOD WORK... Everyone else - TIME HAS COME TO TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT THIS SITE...
Benjamin

Dear Benjamin, I hope everybody else has noticed we update often, not quite hourly, but often. - Ed


January '99

Fri, 29 Jan 1999
TOGS
Dear Members and Friends of the NCGLE
thought that i would forward you the url for TOGS Team Johannesburg, the organization for gay sport in SOUTH AFRICA

This is the best and most awesome gay sport web site that you will find in south africa and africa !!!!

we would welcome your input and support in getting our url advertised..

www.icon.co.za/~stobbs/togs/togs.html

many thanks
GaryCoetzee
Vice Chair TOGS, Co-Chair TOGS Masters Swimming


Sun, 31 Jan 1999
Sphaera Gnostica
hello & Tula

enjoyed the article on Tula, is she the same as the model who starred in From Russia With Love, with Sean Connery? i love her she is great, i am in "closet'' TS, teaching a writing class and i am a reverend, lez preference lifestyle, with friends of many diverse persuasions, i have a palace chatroom with interactive visuals, and i wiz at another palace. also i am poet and artist, published, and have been in several art shows.

'nuff about me for a moment, just found you by surfing for info about Tula, thanks for your work and good luck with all, please keep in touch, i am Suzi Lilith but also known as Lilith and Lulu


Fri, 29 Jan 1999
OUTright Website
I would like to let you know that OUTright magazine will be launching its website on Monday 1 February 1999 (www.outright.co.za)

I would like to ask permission for us to create a link on our site for 'q'.

Please check out the site after Monday, and forward any comments or suggestions you might have to me. We still have much more in store for the site, but would like some feedback.

Thank you


January 19, 1999
The GLA and the Coalition

Dear All:
As an immigrant to this country, I know first hand how hard the NCGLE has worked over many years to win legal equality for gay and lesbian people. I owe my presence here with my South African partner, the very survival of our life together, to the Coalition's efforts, through negotiation and litigation, to get the Department of Home Affairs to recognize our relationship as equal to any other.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THESE "GLA" FOLKS HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUT THIS PROTRACTED STRUGGLE!

They haven't attended any of the Immigration Support Group's meetings, nor any of our discussions with members of parliament and Home Affairs officials on how best to bring the law into line with the constitution. They were not present when we addressed the parliamentary portfolio committee on Home Affiars, nor when our supporters filled St. George's Cathedral on the eve of the hearing in the Cape High Court of NATIONAL COALITION FOR GAY AND LESBIAN EQUALITY AND 13 OTHERS / THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS AND 2 OTHERS. Nor, for that matter, were they in court with us on December 4th, as were so many true supporters of equality. And they weren't there either last week when the Coalition again went to court to help a gay South African citizen get his immigrant partner released from unlawful detention at Cape Town International Airport.

I strongly suspect that the so-called Gay and Lesbian Alliance is nothing but a right-wing Trojan horse seeking to ensure the marginalisation of the gay and lesbian community and the trivialisation of our concerns. What better way to achieve this than to discourage our participation in the real political life of the country, where we work for equality and dignity for all, in favor of the blandishments of phony "activists" who would lead us into a meretricious ghetto, where we could be safely ignored. Gay rights are human rights. It is only through engagement with the rest of society that we can change peoples' minds, find commonalities, build bridges, and actually improve the way human beings are treated.

There are brave, wise, hard-working people in South Africa's gay and lesbian community, people with long records of service and genuine activism; they just aren't conspicuous in the "GLA".

Regards,
William Daniels

email at home: lareyfc@iafrica.com
email at work: muslarey@protem.uct.ac.za


Tue, 19 Jan 1999
Lesbians in South Africa, on the net

Hi there!
Lesbians in South Africa is a group and forum for Lesbians who want to meet other gay women for friendship, discussions, and support.

Would it be possible for you to include a link to the forum's home page from the q-online website? If you go the webpage at the following URL http://www.delphi.com/pa-167406/ you will see I have included a link to q.

If you could add the link to your site it would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Amanda.
Amanda Yesorsky
mand@webmail.co.za


January 14, 1999
Gay Political Party responds

Dear Editor,
I am responding to your article in which Mazibuko Jarra accuses us of ignoring the gay organisations.

Mr. Jarra was contacted last year. No feed back. Mr. Jarra received all press releases. His racist comment rejected as the GLA is a non-racist party.

We did advertise in the Government Gazette dated November 13, 1998. Our election manifesto was faxed to Mr. Jarra and all other media.

During 1998 we did contact numerous gay societies. We did provide the gay media with press releases.

Regarding the death penalty: we promise a referendum for the voters to decide by November 1999.

I did not state on the radio that I organised gay parties (on being asked what experience he has had in politics he was heard as saying that he has organised lots of gay patries). Backing of gay societies is a bonus and not the make or break of a party.

The GLA is the only gay political party and on voters day will surprise all.

The GLA is fighting not only gay issues, but also normal party politics. The GLA will have between 4 and 10 members of parliament after the 1999 elections.

Juan Uys
Party leader of Gay and lesbian Alliance


Sat, 2 Jan 1999
Personals

Hi
I responded to an ad in your personals section which I cant seem to find on your website anymore . I had a reply from the person but my pc crashed and i lost all information. Would you be able to help me? Thank you
Stefan

Dear Stefan,
The reason you cant find the chatroom is because we also had a crash. Sorry. We are trying to get the problem fixed - but everybody is on holiday! This part of the message is for your guest from San Fancisco: you can email Stefan by clicking on his name above - his email: jsl@icon.co.za
-Ed


Sun, 3 Jan 1999
Greenman Cottage

Hello
Thank you for including our exclusively gay B&B; in your accommodation listing for the Karoo.
Richard & Mark


Sun, 3 Jan 1999
Howdy y'all from Dallas, TX

I am an American who used to live in Johannesburg (I went to Wits Law School) in the late 70's. Enjoy your web site and hope to come back to SA for a visit.

Dear Howdy,
Johannesburg looks forward to it.
-Ed


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- March 16, 1999

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