The Gillmor Gang

December 31, 2004

Steve Gillmor


 

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This week The Gang digs deeper into digital identity with a panel of experts. It begins as a Kumbaya of identity vendors and technologies, but by the second half the gloves come off. Craig points out that everyone has built silos so far because there have been no alternatives. Is the idea of a Microsoft silo "old fashioned thinking," as Kim suggests, defending the company he joined not all that long ago? He then presents the first five of his seven Laws of Identity -- clearly well thought out and vendor independent as all agree. Everyone also agrees that no identity solution can succeed without the cooperation and participation of Microsoft, but Dave is skeptical given the company's history in identity management. Phil points out that PKI hasn't succeded, and Kim suggests it's because PKI violated his 4th Law of Identity. And Doc suggests that digital identity needs a 'key personality' in the same way as Dave has played a lead role in RSS and blogging. Make sure you listen to this one all the way through.

Today's Gillmor Gang panel includes:

Steve Gillmor, contributing editor, ZDNet
Doc Searls, senior editor, Linux Journal
Craig Burton, founding member, Novell; co-founder, The Burton Group
Kim Cameron, Microsoft's Architect of Identity and Access Systems
Dave Winer, father of RSS and more
Marc Canter, Broadband Mechanics
Bryan Field-Elliot, CTO, Ping Identity Corporation
Phil Windley, Brigham Young University
Drummond Reed, CTO, Cordance

[You can also hear other editions of The Gillmor Gang.]

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