Like Bongwi, the big baboon, President Robert Matibili Mugabe bellowed and trumpeted his lungs out at the just ended UN’s 62 Session of the General Assembly, in New York. Frankly speaking, he was armed to the teeth with powerful historical facts which he heaped at US President Bush and UK PM Brown.
It was difficult to establish whether President Mugabe had already prepared his speech well before President Bush’s direct attack on his tyrannical and disastrous rule, the previous day or was a provoked response.
The speech was well researched and supported by factual historical data and information forced through an old exhaust pipe. What does the EU expect on the 8 and 9th of December if they decide to invite our Bongwi?
Despite repeating or recycling his speeches toned with anti – imperialist and neo – colonialist rhetoric contextualized within the framework of Zimbabwe’s land issue, President Mugabe was more than thorough and uncompromising.
Obviously President Mugabe’s speech was greeted with great enthusiasm throughout the oppressed world in general and Africa in particular. His speech was historically and ideologically very relevant and important.
However, this may not necessarily be the case in Zimbabwe where the general populace has come to learn and know that such empty, but ideologically laden speeches do not bring any glory and material benefits to citizens at the end of the day.
Furthermore, President Matibili’s speech, thundering and echoing as it was, shook the walls of the UN Headquarters, but painfully could not and shall never pull and push Zimbabwe and Zimbabweans out of the present sufferings and into a better future.
Thus, President Matibili, no matter how oratorily gifted he is, he can no longer transform himself into a politically relevant national leader for today nor tomorrow.
No matter how careful and well versed he is, in choosing nice and soothing words, phrases and sentences, they cannot obliterate his recorded failure, history of gross manipulation, insincerity, brutality and lack of passion for his people.
His speech cannot remove the established knowledge and perception that he is simply a spineless power hungry opportunist who has benefited from the early departure from this planet of genuine people centred revolutionary leaders.
His speech clearly and beyond any shadow of doubt demonstrated that other than basking in historical glory and sacrifices, President Matibili has reached a point of no return in terms of political marginal utility both for his party and country.
Therefore his speech in NY was very useful only to political historians and his bunch of greed war veterans, as it could not articulate why he daily authorizes the harassing, beating, torturing, brutalizing and killing of innocent and peace loving opposition activists.
His speech does not reveal how he has been using state apparatus to thwart legitimate and lawful opposition political activities like rallies, prayer meetings and peaceful demonstrations. His speech hides the truth about how he has reduced public administration and governance issues to heartless, hollow, cheap and self serving propaganda at the detriment of national progress.
In his speech he persistently and consistently articulated and defended that Zimbabwe does not deserve the “stifling” targeted sanctions, yet for 8 years now he has been misleading his subjects by claiming that these were a non event claiming Zimbabwe has everything she needed to prosper.
Way back, he once told the same audience that by grabbing fertile land, formerly owned by white farmers, Zimbabwe had every reason to smile all the way to socio – economic prosperity. Eight years down the line where is the prosperity, his sincerity and seriousness?
Can he be trusted again? Can the world allow him to pick up nice and sensational words and phrases, then put them together to arouse our racial sentiments and then clap hands for him as a true hero, when in fact his rule is now worse than that of Ian Smith?
When a leader engages himself in an imaginary ideological war with the West, fully aware that his country has no means, resources and capacity to withstand the consequences and daily sees his subjects plunging deeper into poverty, does this show passion, wisdom and good judgment?
There are innumerable examples on how President Matibili is such a devious, totally insincere and big shameless political crook, who day and night pretends to do everything good for his country and people, yet is simply driven by personal drive for power.
Just take the Jabulani Sibanda case, where he (Matibili) has just re- admitted this disgraced and expelled Zanu PF cadre without bothering to consult his party rules and structures from Matabeleland, simply because he solidly supports him
Therefore, there is every reason and basis to qualify President Matibili as a ruthless politician who sees a political game as where one plays the ball on his own and to him/herself. The other players are only needed in order to pick the ball for him when it goes out of play.
Thus the dangers with which Zimbabwe politics have come to be known and characterized owes much to President Matibili’s bad personal character. Zanu PF more than Zimbabweans needs to get rid of this man come December 2007.
Zanu PF should not be fooled by this power hungry man, who uses exactly what colonialists did through (mis)rule and divide. There are many good leaders in Zanu PF as they are in the MDC. Matibili simply deserves a zebra kick.
This shameful business of accosting ex – combatants to coerce Zanu PF’s rank and file supporters to support Matibili’s candidature is unprecedented and should be resisted vigorously.
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WELL SAID GEORGE THE SAME SPEECHES THAT HE GIVES AT ALL THESE EVENTS ARE NOW TOO TIRED ITS THE SAME SPEECHES OVER AND OVER COME EU SUMMIT IT WILL BE THE SAME OLD SPEECH ABOUT AMERICA AND THE UK AS TRUE AS THEY MAYBE.WE WANT CHANGE IN OUR COUNTRY WE WANT HIM TO GO TO THE EU IF HE IS INVITED TO USE THE OPOTUNITY TO TRY AND MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR US HERE IN ZIMBABWE.AND FOR ONCE BOB LISTEN TO GONO AS MUCH AS I DONT LIKE THE MAN HALF THE TIME HE TALKS SENSE eg THE PRICE CUTS AND THE UPCOMING LOCALISATION OF COMPANYS.....HOW COULD YOU DO THAT AND EXPECT PEOPLE TO INVEST IN ZIMBABWE?THE ONLY PEOPLE I FEEL FOR ARE YOUR CHILDREN WHO STILL HAVE LIFES TO LIVE AFTER YOU ARE GONE BOB THINK ABOUT THAT THEY WILL NEVER HEAR THE LAST OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO OUR ONCE BEAUTYFL ZIM.........
Posted By ZENZO NYATHI , BOROWDALE BROOKE...............HARARE : Oct 8 2007 01:10 AM
I Love ZimDaily
Mugabe is NOT "oratorily gifted".He has good reading and writing skills.He cannot deliver the same while not looking at it.But George Bush can, for example.
Posted By sampson , usa : Oct 8 2007 01:47 AM
matibili dzadambuka
Ko munoti dza Matibili dzichakakwana? Chasara kukwira mugomo chaimo. Munoti munhu angakwire ndege kuuya kuzo furufusha vanezvinhu zvavo havo. Ko zvino akawanei kusara kwenoise yaMbeki naMwanawasa? Nyika yavakutongwa nemurwere zvake.
Posted By muvhitori , Jerusalem : Oct 8 2007 03:07 AM
mr
You state that there are good leaders in zanu PF. Who? And why have't they done something about it, like stabbing him in the back? OR is that what they tried in the secret coup and are now too scared of being killed, or of the war vets and youth miliita, to remove Mugabe? Which doesn't bode well, since even after Mugabe goes, they will follow whoever frightens them the most. Whenever they can get off the farms they kept as bribes, after threatening people on the grounds of their race, as they used violence to overcome the rule of law, or re-wrote the laws to suit themselves.
A good leader afer mugabe, will be one who restores the rule of law, de- politicises the police and army, removes the youth militia and war veterans as violent thugs threatening civil society, restores property rights so that international investors are reassured that their money will not be "indigenised", reasserts respect between the races and brings to justice those who discriminate on the basis of race, and who will also admit the need for international aid and allow NGO's to distribute it to those who need it most regardless of political affiliation. This therefore rules out all members of Zanu PF, and Moyo, from their current and historically reccorded behaviour.
Posted By ebygum , Southend, Essex. United Kigndom : Oct 8 2007 03:48 AM
WHAT RUBBISH
What rubbish george, you have time to give him props.Its the same old rubbish, mugabe is old news and has become irrelevent to the new world order lets get rid of him.
Posted By maranganyika , Zvimba : Oct 8 2007 03:57 AM
Hasha hadzitonge ndaa
It made sense reading his speech than watching him deliver it. Mugabe's body language said otherwise. In communication they say your body language also contributes to the message you are trying to convey. Mugabe looked mad and here was a mad angry man trying to talk sense. He could hardly sayout some words cause he suppossedly had a lump of anger sitting on his throat coupled with fidgiting. The man could hadly hold his composure. Gone are the days when he used to be an eloquent orator. Whatever he was tring to say was overshadowed by his body language. If it was in the States and his tape played over and over again like they do on CNN, MSNBC or FOX people would see his madness. Age, frustration and anger are catching up with him.
Is he a better murderer than Ian Smith? I think they fall in the same category. Has he done any good for Zimbabwe? l dont think so.
izeyei veduwe
Posted By Mandionerepi Chiropa , Tampa,Florids,USA. : Oct 8 2007 04:24 AM
Nonsense
1. u defeat your case by altering his imgage.
2. u contradict yourself if you say his body language was full of anger. yes, he must be angry if wrongfully accused. he was not apologetic.3. bush, following his accusations on saddam, went on to kill sadaam and his sons, just to get iraq oil.4. if bush delivers progress, why don't you all go to iraq where bush and blair installed democracy? u guys are so naive. i don't support mugabe at all, but it insults all intelligence if i were to associate myself with this kind bullshit you try to propagate here. if you guys improve your sense of maturity u may stand a better chance of being an alternative to zanu pf. otherwise this is all kindergatten politics. well, if it pays u --- then do it.... but state house is a far cry kids
Posted By Mature Up Kids , Mother Earth : Oct 8 2007 05:06 AM
nonsense Chirikure
ya all playa hatin the guru!!They fear the guy cos he got balls,why are the likes of godhodhi brauni,howard or bush afraid of open debate with him on live broadcast..He drresses down cos of the naked truth.Woe to you who do this for the love of money thinking the white man likes yu,hamudiwe
Posted By Scooby Doo , : Oct 8 2007 05:35 AM
important
Posted By thuggish , sydney : Oct 8 2007 07:03 AM
important
to my fellow zimbabweans, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.
M.D.C supporter
thuggish
Posted By thuggish , sydney : Oct 8 2007 07:04 AM
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Posted By Parafini , Zim : Oct 8 2007 08:18 AM
TO: Mature Up Kids
My brother or sister, depending on what you are, you simply miss the point here. The gist of the issue is that whatever looting Bush or Blair/Brown do, it is for the benefit of their countries and/or people. They are not butchering their own in the name of 'sovreignty'. Tell me, what sovereignty can you, in your right and sober senses, talk about and wish for when half the population is murdered by the powers that be, one quarter remaining is the country is starving and living in dire fear, and the last quarter has simply run out of the country. Nyika vanhu mwana wababa vangu!
Posted By Torapito, Mandebvu , Gweru,Zim : Oct 8 2007 10:35 AM
rob
Posted By rob , durban : Oct 8 2007 10:47 AM
Mugabe is an IDIOT
Robert Mugabe is a STUPID DEMENTED SON OF A BITCH. Ndatenda hangu!
Posted By Rombe , Harare : Oct 8 2007 10:49 AM
Parafin and Olympics
Thats a good capmaign you are waging on this website. The olympics you are talking about are taking place in China. All sportsmen and women there are mentally challenged. Put it politely ,they are slow learners. Most Zimbabweans could qualify to be there , esp those contributing to this website. By the way whats the name of the Zimbo we should vote for?
Posted By Nkosilathi Ndhlovu , Ward 6 , Ingutsheni , Bulawayo, Matibililand : Oct 8 2007 10:53 AM
rob
torapiro, i can't believe that you can blurt out such words! do you realise your statement saying "at least bush and blair are doing it for their countrymen" basically justifies any colonialism, any slavery or any form of exploitation of one country by another that has ever happened in the past!!
unbelievable!
also, i think u better wake up a little. and that counts for all of you readers. the capitalist system that the u.s has ensures that the main beneficiaries from invasions like that of Iraq, are the wealthy oil barrons and people like donald rumsveld who owns the company that sells suplies such as coke to the u.s. army at 2-3 times it's normal retail price!
half the problem with those of us that criticise Mugabe at every opportunity,is that you are just YUPPIES, who are not upset that the poorer prople in our country are suffering the most, but are upset because you can't afford the 'bling'. shame.
maybe one day you will see the value of the president we have right now. perhaps by then we will have achieved the fundamental change that we as a nation and even as a world would need to experience....a change in US THE PEOPLES mentalities, in our spirits, in our values, in our ways. we need to come to the realisation of the fact that we as a species do not exist in isolation, but instead as an enitre planet that requires all species mutually beneficial participation to survive.
the sad thing is, the more i read our comments and look at our behavior as humans, the more dispondent i get.
wake up fools and realize whats goin' on around you.
Posted By rob , durban : Oct 8 2007 11:04 AM
Matibili u talk too much
Nothing new here. Same old bullshit from matibili's mouth. For 27 yrs he's been lying to us, telling us sweet-nothings did nothing good for the people. Instead he and zanu ransacked and destroyed our once beloved home. Its time to go to nursing home now Bob.
Posted By Silent Assassin , J'burg, RSA : Oct 8 2007 11:21 AM
George good account but...
You had written a very good account but i disagree with you by some portions where you praise mugabes' speech. He just said nonsense at the EU. People do not eat history or use history for fuel, history does not change economy at this era. The world has changed its never the same again hakuna kuchashandiswa history to rule or govern your own people. People need economic solution yesterday yet he is busy talking history. Historians are not or presidency. Delusions only thats the problem with your president, he lives 100 yrs backwards. He want to see us going to work on foot, sleeping on the floor because you cant afford a bed. Shame on this evil man.
Posted By Moyounotsva Taurai , Uzumba : Oct 8 2007 11:35 AM
GOOD SPICHI AT THE UN
For ALL true efricans that was a good speech...the world needs to be told the truth. It is pathetic to hear some chaps still CLING TO western propaganda - grow up please because neo colonialism will never take root in Efrica.AFRICA IS NOT FOR THE FAINTHEARTED!!
Posted By Gurvey , Jamaica : Oct 8 2007 11:38 AM
Gurvey
A good speech will not feed millions of Zimbabweans starving at the hands of this stupid monster(Mugabe). We dont want a good speech...we want food, water, medicines not a good speech!
Posted By Rombe , Harare : Oct 8 2007 11:46 AM
Rob
Thanks for your comments. But whether you like it or not the truth is that when countries go to war looting occurs. We looted in Mozambique and DRC. But the 'spoils of war', as they are called did not find their way into Zimbabwean pockets despite us using Zim finances and soldiers. Only a few high ranking ZANUnites benefitted. Even after massive looting in Mozambique, the Matibili govt was PAID large sums of money by the EU for their trouble, particularly UK, under the guise of Beira Corridor rehabilitation, etc. What you talk about is good, but it is the ideal, not the real, world. You obviously want us to appreciate Matibili, when you are not home here with us to feel the heat and pain. It is a well known secret that Sadaam had no weapons of mass destruction, but he had oil. Which country, if you can tell me, which has wealth has ever known peace with USA and UK? You are preaching to the converted!
Posted By Torapito,Mandebvu , Gweru,Zim : Oct 8 2007 11:56 AM
Mugabe a disGrace.
When Mugabe was lambasting Bush for the Blacks in American prisons, I was just thinking to myself, Is one not better off in an American prison that to be 'free' in Zimbabwe? Mugabe is a disgrace to all Black people.
Posted By John the Baptist , Madison Prison, Washington, USA : Oct 8 2007 12:17 PM
I Agree with Torapito
I do agree with you torapito. Whatever hypocrisy the US and UK govts demonstrates, they are far much better than our own stinking hypocrites. Unlike what Rob is saying, i do not think any sane zimbabwean will ever miss mugabe in the event that he leaves office or demise. The US and UK govts might be hypocrites but they do take care of their citizens, they respect opposition and do not butcher them. Mugabe should look at himself in the mirror before he even start being critical of the first world. These guys at least know what democracy is all about. We have got it written down in zimbabwean but is virtually non existent. Whatever little good he did cannot be recognised anymore because his hands are dirty, full of blood of innocent Zimbabweans he killed ever since he assumed office. I personally wish him death!!
Posted By Wezhira , Masvingo : Oct 8 2007 12:37 PM
torapito
firstly, please do not go that route talkin bout how i do not feel the pains of my people back home in Zim. u do not know me like that. now,we cannot by any means compare what has gone on in iraq to what happened in the DRC. while there was obviousely some looting going on there, i do not believe that was soley why we went in. we cannot rule out the fact that the country needed military support. the chaos had (and still does to a certain extent) gone on for too long in that country. it was our obligation as a SADC neigbor to go in there. the congolese needed help to stabilize, and the region requires a stabe DRC to grow economically. we did not go in there based on a lie.
please stop justifying u.s actions in other countries. Mugabe may have his faults and may have done things differently to how u would have being in his position,but he cannot be compared to bush.
as for John the baptist. u poor man. u better prey that u can one day whitness the beautiful environment we live in in Zim, even tho in a crises state at the moment. until then, enjoy prison. i hope u are reading as much as you can while u're in there.
Posted By Andy Moyo , Hre, Zimbabwe : Oct 8 2007 12:51 PM
Rob missing the point here
Firstly Rob, i do not agree with you when you say we had an obligation to help the DRC. This is one main reason why we are where we are today economically. Our economy could not sustain the war in DRC. The truth is Mugabe used national resources for personal gains in the DRC. Zimbabwe went into that war under the disguise of "helping a SADC member in need" when in fact he and his aides were after looting of precious minerals in the DRC. South africa was better positioned for intervention but wqhy were they not involved. It's not very wise to involve yourself into something without first looking at the repercussions. The cabinet was not consulted before soldiers were sent to the DRC. DRC might have needed help during the time and we do understand, but there is virtually nothing one can do if they do not have resources. In fact, taxpayers money was used to fund this war whilst Zimbabweans died of hunger at home, and You want to justify that Rob. That was a matter of priorities and as always, Mgabe's priorities are very misplaced. He only cares for himself. America went to war in the DRC because they can afford it. Their economy did not fall down as a result, their citizens did not die of hunger as a result. Bush obviously did not persoonally gain anything after the Iraq warcompared to Mugabe, Mnangagwa, Mujuru and all the otherZanu pf hypocrites
Posted By Wezhira , masvingo, Zimbabwe : Oct 8 2007 02:09 PM
Mugabe as a leader
Bottomline: Mugabe is a gifted speaker; that's partly how he got to be where he is. He is a cunning and ruthless politician; that's partly how he has stayed where he is, against all odds. Finally, he has in recent years alternated between the 2 worst kind of ruler; thats partly why he is in so much trouble today. As Lao Tsu put it so well more than 2 thousand years ago, the worst type of leader is one that is despised by his people. The second worst is one that is feared by his people.
Posted By Munya Chitsanga , Harare, Zimbabwe : Oct 8 2007 02:40 PM
Asi chii nhai????
I am at a loss here. How come we always have these discussions about how the other countries are killing others and how Bush went into Iraq and Blah blah blah. Can we not at all bring to light some good examples so we can move ourselves from all this negativity and try and apply to our situation things and practices that can turn us around. I read submissions by the likes of Mature up kids: how is it that you want us to mature, and how are we supposed to take cues from someone who says Mugabe is being wrongfully accused and also how does Bush's wrongs constitute Zimbabwe's rights. Lets use this forum to put our heads together, learn from those that do the right thing and who knows some of you have political aspirations and this forum may assist your campaigns. Zvekutukana ngazviite zvishoma. Mugabe rava rombe and if anyone does not believe that, then chimbodzokera kumusha umbonoita refresh yourself on the situation at home, then you will see why ava saga. Mugabe neZANU vaperegwa nepfungwa. I don't totally blame them for being stupid, its just who they are. To everything there is a season, and season yaana Bob is over. What matters now is how do we assist them out. The war they want to fight today is not relavant. While they fight for segregation we are busy intermarrying and focussing on being part of the global family. We are learning about good governance and freedoms of speech, association and everything else. These do not go down well with ZANU because their ideologies are based on secrecy and rights only for the chosen few. Saka, dare, please ngatiumbane pagungano rino, lets make those who are not of us but are interested in our cause learn from our forums that we are a people with cause, vision and sound goals for our country. Speeches like Mugabe's mobilise the wrong kind of people behind us, thats not what we want. Can I just suggest something, for every post you put here bashing whoever, can you also offer a solution, lets see how that works. Ndakuma hangu ini!!
Posted By Wezhira weKuMasvingo , Mhiri Kwemakungwa : Oct 8 2007 02:43 PM
Rombe
Rombe wazondipedza manje. Anyway iye bob anotsvageiko kwaasingadiwi. Regai Brown arambe hake kuenda Lisbon coz instead of debating progressive issues Mugabe will start kurotomoka achipedzera vanhu nguva. IF he thinks the west is bad then he should use such occassions to show that he does not want to know the west by refusing to attend. Infact ndirini ndinokurumidza kuti I am not interested in attedning the Afro-Eu summit before ndaudzwa kuti I am not welcome. At least thats the only was he can save face.
Posted By Gidzaldo , Nottingham : Oct 8 2007 02:44 PM
not missing the point
wezhira, i completely understand what you are saying about us not being in a financial position to help, but most african countries were not in a position to help each other during each others lberation struggles either - that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have done so. as to why SA did not intervene, i cannot recall although i do remember reading about it at some point.
can you really say without a single doubt that U.s leadrs didn't gain from the invasion while ours did gain from their involvement?
as much as african leaders saw the long term future benefits of economically sacrificing for neighbors' liberations, is it not possible that Mugabe saw the same with the DRC? we cannot operate in isolation. we as a region ought to help each other. certainly we could have left the DRC to go further into chaos. but try and think for a minute,what could the region have been like now had there been no help from us? maybe the war could have escalated.
maybe the burden on us could have been less had other nations chipped in,- had the UN/world done something,-had the U.S. not ousted Lmumba and then backed Mobutu in their "fight against communism" that you my brother, by your apparent respect for Bush and his policies, would have obviously supported.
Posted By rob , durban : Oct 8 2007 02:49 PM
rob
Asi nhai Rob, chii chaizvo. Ungataurawo here zvokwadi kuti kuZim kune chakanaka nhasi uno, asi uri mucabinet yeZANU. Ko zvatangopera kutiza nhamo kudai, asi pane chauniziva chatisingazivi isu. Yes, maybe you can never be better in any prison than in Zim, at least kunemushana. But there's nothing to come back home for now. Especially when you know kuti there is no security for your investments. So dont fool anyone by saying that there is anything enjoyable in ZIM right now. We are Zimbabweans, we would like to get back home, but the truth is this is not the season for it. and please dont preach to me about fighting the war on the ground, I am doing my bit right where I am am. Yes Torapito ari right, Matibili has reduced our country to a basket. Wakambogara muMeikles recently, zvinogwadza shamwari kupedza kuita godzva only to find kuti hapana mvura yekuflasher nayo. That hurts. So are you better off in an American prison, metaphorically yes, physically no. Are you better off in Zim right now, you answer that one.
Posted By Wezhira wekuMasvingo , mhiri kwemakungwa : Oct 8 2007 03:03 PM
Zim problem
Very long comments, not enough meat! We are hungry please help. last had beef in July. Chokwadi here muno muZim! Kan kusanyara kwacho. Tachema please baba Mugabe. Does he care???
Posted By Hama Batsirai , Hre Zim : Oct 8 2007 03:18 PM
KHULUMA MLOMO WAMI WENA ONGAGWALELWA MFULA
In ndebele we say umlomo awugcwalelwa mfula (no river is too flooded for a mouth to cross).
Posted By njokweni , : Oct 8 2007 03:48 PM
Wezhira
Wakuma wena,kana ini ndabve ndashaya remuromo.If Rob has the ears he heard.
Posted By Taneta Musango , Toronto,Canada : Oct 8 2007 04:21 PM
George Chirikure
Was Mugabe telling the truth or not ?Is it not true that thousands of people are dying in Iraq ,Afghanistan and other places of the world due to the misplaced policies of George Bush?
Also is it not true that it is important for Zimbabwe to claim back our wealth stolen over centuries by the west and they continue to do so now in one way or the other thu outright pricing deceit of our raw materials and so forth.Should we therefore just keepquiet about it because there is an economic malaise in our country.George Chirikure think before you just criticise for the sake of it.
Posted By Tonderai , Raleigh North Carolina USA : Oct 8 2007 05:09 PM
Leader?
I always remember Ndabaningi Sithole's words during the detention years. He said: 'You want Mugabe to be your leader? Mugabe is a good civil administrator.'"
Posted By Edgar Tekere , Umtali, Rhodesia : Oct 8 2007 06:23 PM
Kutaura hakusi kuita
George baba vachatunga vangataure zvavo vaka buda duru asi chiripo ndechekuti imhondi, direct and indirect. Mariyavakafambisa kuenda kunotaura zvisingaudze sadza, mishonga muzvipatara, kubvisa mbavha dzeZanu PF, hapana zvazvino batsira povo. Ehe kutaura anogona and ndizvo zvaangadayi avakuita avapamudya ndingere sa Mandela asi ndinopika na Bona he can only dream about it. He is a tormented man and I shall be praying that his soul never rest in peace nekuti rudzi rwekwangu taona nhamo yatisati tambo ona.
Posted By Motsi Dununu , Harare, Zimbabwe : Oct 8 2007 06:30 PM
True, Mugabe’s UN address, was just empty rhetoric
I also agree that Robert Mugabe’s address at the UN during which he frothed the mouth was also just useless rhetoric. George Bush’s country is not going through hunger and a 10 000% inflation as Zimbabweans are doing today. Afghanistan was invaded on with proper UN authority and the US had a right to pursue the Mullahs as they were shielding Osama Bin Laden who had attacked the US in the World Trade Centre attacks. If I were George Bush, I would have done exactly the same. Iraq may be difficult to justify, but if Bush and Blair had said it was all about ridding the country of dictatorship, it was justifiable so too is Mugabe and the Myanmar Junta. Robert Mugabe is in a presidential position to see to the welfare of the people of Zimbabwe failure, which he must resign. Mugabe always uses his sparing of Smith and allowing him to continue to live and farm in Zimbabwe as an example of his good forgiving heart, what a travesty. What about the 5000 other white farmers and the millions of black opposition members that he kills and prosecutes everyday? The people of Zimbabwe did not ask him to spare Smith? So he thinks that if he allows one man who wronged him to live in peace then he must be allowed to do whatever he likes with all other people. Mugabe is not the only leader to have spent time in a prison. Mugabe’s years are two and half times less than what Nelson Mandela did in a much more vicious apartheid South Africa but the latter did not find it necessary to hang on and gloat all over �just because he did some time or bears scars from white operated prisons’. Slavery and colonialism that ended 200 and 30 years ago are fingers behind which failed dictators always hide. People need fresh ideas to develop the county into the new era not history lessons. Mugabe must not try to confuse us and he must be called what he is, plain and simple. A vile and senile old dictator who thrives on blood and sweat of helpless people who he has impoverished. President Bush and Prime Minister Brown, please deport the offspring of the regime members as soon as possible.
Posted By Toendepi Nyikayaparara , Livingstone, Scotland : Oct 8 2007 06:53 PM
Matibili an empty vessel
Zimbabweans are now paying for Matibili's mental ill-health. Something should have been done when Matibili first showed signs of insanity. How on earth can Matibili justify the killing and the suffering of the people of Zimbabwe by arguing that Bush and Brown invaded Iraq. This is a cheap and wild political milage that Matibili is trying to gain.
Posted By Majaira Jairosi , Bujumbura University : Oct 8 2007 07:50 PM
To Torapito
I am responding to you because your point is logical. I don't have to agree with it in order to appreciate it. You raise some good points here: 1. what ever bush is doing, it is for the benefit of his people. 2. u also suggest that he is not killing his own people. 3. u further questioned what sense it makes for a government to torture and displace it's own people. Good logic. However, (1)what bush is doing is not benefiting his people, the us economy is not doing well. the dollar is now at par if not lower than the canadian dollar, yet during clinton's time it reached $1.63 canadian. in rough calculations this is 40% decline. (2) The so called terrorist attacks remain questionable if bush was not involved or it least negligent about earlier intelligence warnings. Also, if these wars, especially the iraq war were unjustified, bush is killing his own people (the soldiers, they are people, with family who wish to see them alive) (3) One could also argue that, the soldiers are not civilian and the zimbabwean deaths are civilian. However, these are militant opposition activitists who are therefore not true civilian because they wish to replace a government that they believe is not good. (4) It can not be denied that there is foreign underhand in opposition activities in zimbabwe. Furthermore, it cannot be ruled out that, notwithstanding corruption, the land acquisition is intended to benefit the underprivilleged zimbabweans. (4) It cannot be denied that sanctions have a big role to play in the economic meltdown in zimbabwe. (5) If this was not true, Tsvangirai wouldn't have campaigned for sanctions. (6) Anyone with some grey matter between his/her ears knows that the purpose of sanctions is to criple the economy until (hopefully) people try change the government. However, Zimbabwe should develop it's own systems to become self sufficient such that it becomes less sensitive to foreign pressure. For, the record, I don't support Mugabe nor Zanu pf. Unfortunately, I am not convinced that the MDC has an agenda good for the country. Worse still, I am a nobody and do not have any following or manifesto to offer an alternative.
Posted By Mature Up Kids , Mother Earth : Oct 8 2007 08:11 PM
Tonderai
Yes people are dying in Iraq and in Afghanistand...the two countries are a war zone and people are bound to die...how about the thousands dying in a peaceful country like ZImbabwe? How about the 30 000 Mugabe massacred in the eighties. Bothe Americans and British soldiers are also dying in the war....How come in Zimbabw eit is only the opposition and ordinary Zimbabweans dying. Mugabe is the last person to talk about war he intervined in DRC without Parliamentry backing and thousands of our soldiers are still unaccounted for. At lease the US and UK give us the correct figures of the dead....Mugabe still maintains no-one perished in DRC
Posted By Rombe , Harare : Oct 8 2007 10:01 PM
pamberi namugabe
im totallyimpressed by this man. who speaks with boldness.why do u hate him. ari bho.isu tiri kuluma.uye ticha muvhotera next year akahwina ende muchasvotwa .
Posted By matibili jnr , : Oct 8 2007 10:10 PM
I Love ZimDaily
Posted By , : Oct 8 2007 11:59 PM
Rombe
You raise good points too. (1) Mugabe intervened in DRC. Why? We have power coming from DRC. (2) He actually intervened in Mozambique too. Why? We have oil pipeline and also our power comes from there too. (3) Is this ever said as the reasons. Rarely to none. All we hear is the West sponsored rebels in he DRC and the Apatheid South African sponsored Renamo Bandits. Bush and Blair, same story, Middle East Oil - all we hear is "terrorism", "weapons of mass distruction", "human rights". Similarly, the current hogwash in Zimbabwe is about control of resources. Mugabe mentions this because this is domestic - foreigners always cite human rights abuses to justify invasion of foreign territory. Human rights abuses/violations: TRUE, THERE ARE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES - TORTURE AND KILLINGS. It is contradicting to say that Zimbabwe is at peace and in the same line cite massive killings and torture. Britain? Britain remained mumb when the Ndebeles were being massacred. Why? There interests were not threatened! Now their interests are being threatened, they blow the whistle. My point? The issue is about control of resources. This issue must be debated and agreements signed between those with interests on common resources to avoid these military system to justify KILLING people in the name of fighting "colonialism", "terrorism", "human rights abuses" and all that political hogwash. It is nonsense to say that the deaths in Iraq and Afganstan are justified because they are "war zones". If you guys believe for one second in any justification for killing people, you are not any different from Robert Mugabe. Should we therefore declair Zimbabwe a war zone and start killing people? What nonsense! Right now, Morgan and Company showed maturity in supporting the 18th Amendment - and people are busy calling them traitors. In my view, such ability by people with competing interests to reach an agreement is what I call civilization.
Posted By Dzungudzai , Muno Munyika : Oct 9 2007 01:55 AM
obligation my foot
I CARRIED THE LETTER FROM MUSEVENI TO ZIM LONG BEFORE MUGABE TOOK UP ARMS TO THE DRC ACHINZI MUZAYA SIYAYANA NAZVO UCHABUDA USINA CHIRO.IYE NANA MAKONI MABUTCHERBOY EMU ARMY VAKATI KANA NDOKWATICHADYIRA VAKATORA VANA VEZIMBABWE VAKAENDA LIVES WERE LOST NONE ACCOUNTED FOR and the likes of RAUTENBACH vakapfuma nanhasi vavo vana vanodya, vachirara vachisura, nhamo hapana, yet the greater part of zim iri kufa nenzara.
Posted By mai misodzi , SAKUBVA CHETE : Oct 10 2007 11:18 AM
