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Jobs move out of state control



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IT'S happened without anyone really noticing. Quietly, gradually, stealthily, there has been a significant reduction in the number of people working in Scotland's public sector.
At the same time, there has been a continued increase in the totals employed in the private sector north of the Border, according to the latest figures released by the Scottish Government.

If the trend identified over the past year continues, then Scotland will soon have more than two million people in the private sector for the first time, and continuing falls in the public sector.

The figures, released by the Scottish Government last week, show that the proportion of people employed in the state sector in Scotland is at its lowest level for six years. There were 575,700 people employed in the public sector – more than one in five people in the workforce – between July and September this year, down 6,100 since last year. The private sector north of the Border has seen a continuous rise in staff, from 1,911,800 in the third quarter of last year to 1,975,800 this year.

As the graphs on this page show, if this trend is maintained, the gap between the public and private sectors is likely to continue to widen, blunting the arguments of critics who say that Scotland relies too heavily on the public sector for employment. The trend revealed in the latest figures has been welcomed by economists as a demonstrating the strength of the Scottish economy and signalling the prospect of future growth.

According to an authoritative Bank of Scotland survey, the major increases in private-sector employment have been in business services – which include property, information technology, accountancy and legal services – as well as financial services, hotels and restaurants.

Martin Ellis, chief economist at Bank of Scotland, says: "Research shows the private sector tends to have higher productivity growth potential than the public sector.

"The shift towards a greater proportion of employees working in the private sector is therefore an encouraging sign and should help to provide a firm foundation for stronger economic growth in Scotland in the future."

The decline in the public-sector workforce is largely due to reductions in the number of employees in local government and the central civil service, probably in anticipation of the this year's tighter spending round.

However, those who are critical of Scotland's over-reliance on state employment will be able to point out that Scotland still lags behind the UK average in terms of the proportion of private sector jobs.

For the third quarter of this year, there were 5,770,000 people in the public sector in the UK as a whole, equivalent to 19.7 per cent of the workforce, with 23,521,000 in the private sector, 80.3 per cent.

The figure of 77.4 per cent in the private sector and 22.6 per cent in the public sector north of the Border shows that Scotland still trails the UK average in the size of the state and its effect on jobs.

However, Scotland's the proportion of people in the public sector in Scotland is falling more rapidly than the UK average.

It has dropped 1.2 per cent from the high of 23.8 per cent in the fourth quarter of 2005. The UK figure has dropped 0.6 per cent from a high of 20.3 in fourth quarter of 2005 to 19.7 per cent in the third quarter of this year.

John Swinney, the cabinet secretary for finance, points out that the figures improve the Scottish Government's commitment to providing better value for taxpayers' money.

Swinney, who has admitted the public sector in Scotland is likely to contract over the next four years, says: "The Scottish Government is determined to simplify the public sector and focus resources on improved delivery of frontline services. Good government has to be about results and value for money."

He adds: "The Government is focused on ensuring we have more front-line staff delivering better public services and increasingly efficient backroom functions. This is what we are working to achieve and this will be a good result for Scottish taxpayers."

According to the figures, the total numbers in the public service is 47,500 up since the third quarter of 1999, a 9 per cent rise. But over the same period, private sector employment has increased by 191,000 people, a rise of 10.7 per cent.

Using "full-time equivalent" figures, there were 229,700 people working in local government in the third quarter of this year. This included 57,700 teachers and 35,800 other education staff. There were also 43,600 social work staff and 92,600 other staff.

The transfer of staff providing central services to the Scottish police forces to the new Scottish Police Services Authority (SPSA) has meant that a large number of staff who were previously employed b
y police boards are now classified as being employed by a non-departmental government body.

Over the year, there has been a reduction of 2.4 per cent in police and related staff, a result of the movement of staff to the SPSA.

Permanent full-time equivalent employment in the core Scottish Government departments, excluding arm's-length agencies, was down by 0.9 per cent since last year, but up by 12.1 per cent since 1999.

Liam McArthur, the Liberal Democrats' finance spokesman, says: "The trend is towards a greater proportion of the workforce being employed by the private sector, a trend set to continue now that the SNP have abandoned their plans to recruit 1,000 additional police.

"What we need to try and do is support the business community in creating jobs, while at the same time recognising the important role of the public sector in promoting sustainable economic growth."

The full article contains 979 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
Last Updated: 19 December 2007 7:34 PM
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1

AM2,

Glasgow 20/12/2007 00:31:51
John Swinney's apparent attempt to give the impression that credit is due to the new SNP executive is fairly distasteful. He wilfully ignores the fact that this healthy trend started in Q1 2006, since which time we have 10,200 fewer public sector jobs but 79,100 more in the private sector.
2

Graham Simpson,

Vancouver 20/12/2007 01:11:06
'It's happened without anyone really noticing. Quietly, gradually, stealthily, there has been a significant reduction in the number of people working in Scotland's public sector'.

Really!... Quietly, gradually and without stealth the support in Scotland for the SNP in Scotland rises dramatically every month! and with 'lot's of people really noticing'. It's not surprising that a major plank of the party, well publicised before the election, that is, by introducing efficiencies, to reduce the cost of government and the vast army of civil servants spawned under NuLabour... has been successful!
3

Spotter,

20/12/2007 01:18:55
doh what is liam dum lib macarsr on

no very bright or 3 the point
4

AM2,

Glasgow 20/12/2007 01:28:50
#2 Graham Simpson

Even after I highlighted the fact that this trend started over a year before the SNP won the election, you still tried to credit it to the nationalists. Why?

Your claim that “the support in Scotland for the SNP in Scotland rises dramatically every month” is similarly inaccurate.

Constituency vote:

YouGov for the Telegraph (26 Apr) Con:13 Lab:30 LD:15 SNP:39
YouGov for the SNP (30 Nov) Con:12 Lab:29 LD:13 SNP:40

Regional vote:

YouGov for the Telegraph (26 Apr) Con:13 Lab:27 LD:11 SNP:31
YouGov for the SNP (30 Nov) Con:13 Lab:26 LD:13 SNP:34

Similarly, they’re up 1% since August in Westminster polls. So not a bad honeymoon period. But hardly a “dramatic” rise in support!

Any chance of some debate instead of your partisan spin?
5

Gregorf,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 06:14:38
Lets congratulate the previous administraton for latterly helping a problem they created and the SNP for not following their original path but propelling the decline in civil servants then.

Still a long way to go. We can only assume we can have a lower figure than England employed in the civil service gven their size. How does 18% sound!
6

juan kerr and his dead magic hands, now re risen.,

20/12/2007 06:33:39
POT ,KETTLE ,BLACK AWARD 2007 GOES TO AM2!!!!

"Any chance of some debate instead of your partisan spin?"

LOL

#5 - It's probably due to the fact that, the previous lots out of office , and due to that the civil service rolls down. The amount of hangers on and lackies they had you would think they were royalty.

7

mr angry,

ayrshire 20/12/2007 07:51:59
AM2 has crawled out from under his rock, been missed for a few days. Get a life saddo, with your bogus statistics.
8

Stephen101,

Social Enterprises 20/12/2007 08:07:56
What is not mentioned here is that Social Enterprises are taking on the delivery of public services more and more.

They have all the efficiencies of the traditional private sector, but with controls on distribution of the profits and assets.

In a uGov poll, 64% of the public surveyed would prefer their public services being supplied through a Social Enterprise rather than direct from a Council or Government. That way you are dealing with people who care and believe in what they are doing, not faceless jobsworths.

Set up by Labour, but actively supported by the SNP administration.

http://www.ssec.org.uk/
9

Ken S.,

England 20/12/2007 08:23:07
"The transfer of staff ..to the new Scottish Police Services Authority (SPSA) has meant that ..staff who were ..are now classified as being employed by a non-departmental government body."

So, the bill for their services is still being paid for by the public. Same with our dustmen: they used to be employed directly by the council. Now they're employed by contractors to the council and therefore regarded as private sector.

I'm not one of those who thinks that working in the public sector is inherently evil. Much of it is essential. I just hate statistics being misused when, as in this case, it's a recategorisation rather than a change in substance.
10

AM2,

Glasgow 20/12/2007 09:31:22
#9 Ken S

There has of course been a substantive change. Even if every one of those 10,000 fewer public sector jobs since Q1 2006 had simply been redesignated, there would still be almost 70,000 more genuinely new private sector jobs.

And here's another pertinent factor. These aren't just low-paying “McJobs”. That phenomenon in Scotland is now on the wane. In 2006, the median salary in Scotland grew by 5.1%, higher than in Wales (4.9%), England (4.1%) and N.Ireland (1.9%).
11

Ken S.,

Reading 20/12/2007 10:00:25
#10 AM2,
Glad to hear that there has been a real shift - but forgive me if age has made me sceptical about government statistics (any government/any statistics!)
12

AM2,

Glasgow 20/12/2007 10:08:07
#11 Ken S

I'll say one semi-positive thing about the SNP. John Swinney’s efficiency targets (irrespective of the innumeracy which necessitated them) should help to keep this trend on track.
13

Number 6,

Germany 20/12/2007 10:31:26
Excellent news , always a good sign when the public sector reduces in size. With the SNP in charge I expect this trend to continue , unlike the horrific previous rabble who would have had everyone who claimed to be able to move, in the public sector given the chance. Labour see them as a ready source of voters, growing fat and lazy on ridicoulous money , while providing sub-standard services.

As hardly anyone has noticed Scotsman , how about putting this on your front page?.

I look forward to the day when we have the smallest public sector per capita in Europe.
14

AM2,

Glasgow 20/12/2007 10:53:39
#13 Number 13

Re. "horrific previous rabble" etc, perhaps you could explain how that tallies with how little overall variation there was from 1999 to 2007.

Q1 1999: 23.1%
Q1 2000: 23.2%
Q1 2001: 22.7%
Q1 2002: 23.2%
Q1 2003: 23.0%
Q1 2004: 23.5%
Q1 2005: 23.6%
Q1 2006: 23.7%
Q1 2007: 23.0%
15

Number 6,

Germany 20/12/2007 11:21:53
am2 I think Labour are the most corrupt, sleazy under-hand party this country has ever had to suffer under. The current litaney of investigations going on just show they are corrupt to the core. Defend them all you want but nothing will change. The youth of this country are way way way more informed and more widely travelled than any previous generation. For those reasons the game is up for Labour in Scotland.

No longer will our consecutive generations be told to shut up and be grateful that England agreed to look after us. No this is the beginning of the end for Labour and it's unstoppable just as they are indefensible.
16

Number 6,

Germany 20/12/2007 11:40:55
Interesting to see that Maggie Brown thinks independence for a basket case like KOSOVO would
be a good thing but not in the land of his birth, oh no
that would never work.

Enough to make you physically Sick.
17

antifa,

20/12/2007 11:45:41
Number 6 - not very impressive. AM2 proves you wrong so you come back with a completely irrelevant point.

"I look forward to the day when we have the smallest public sector per capita in Europe."

Be careful what you wish for.

AM2 - congrats on trying to raise the standard of debate on this forum. I don't agree with your pro-Labour position, but at least you are prepared to argue with recourse to evidence and reason.

As someone who voted for the SNP in the last election, I'm pretty appalled by the views of most Nats on this board. I voted for a social democratic party, but most of their supporters here seem to be a bunch of right-wing nationalist nutcases.

I imagine the sensible, moderate majority just don't post on here.

18

antifa,

20/12/2007 11:48:11
Number 6 - perhaps the issue is that the majority of Scots want to remain with the UK, but the vast majority of Kosovans (circa 90%) want to leave Serbia.

And it's strange to hear you talk about 'Maggie Brown' when you've just revealed that you want to slash the size of Scotland's public sector.
19

Number 6,

Germany 20/12/2007 12:04:45
17/18 If you think I am going to respond to one of AM2's legendary "Death by statistics posts your insane.
Your post at 18 makes no sense whatsoever. I also see you are a fan of the statistic.

What is the logic behind your point. Are you saying that Brown would be in favour of Scottish independence
if the majority of Scots wanted it? What's strange about me talking about "Maggie Brown ?".
Explain, then you can totter off back to the "Sensible Majority".
20

Ken S.,

Reading 20/12/2007 12:34:58
Omigawd, barely reached twenty posts and already it has gone off topic to revert to the usual Union v Independence exchanges!
21

Why can't I use my usual name?,

Glasgow 20/12/2007 12:36:21
#17, yout last comment is perceptive. The lack of balance (in both directions sometimes) is a bit depressing but fortunately it's not representative.

Most people in Scotland are, quite sensibly, not that excited by party politics or independence (for or against). They're so excited by it that's many (most?) of them don't even turn out to vote.
22

Why can't I use my usual name?,

Glasgow 20/12/2007 12:36:58
#20, 20 is a lot!
23

AM2,

Glasgow 20/12/2007 13:00:03
#17 antifa

Thanks, although I’m not “pro-Labour”. As I said the other day, Labour now look to me to be tired, short on vision and in need of an out-of-office period of reflection and renewal. However, credit where it’s due.
24

Number 6,

Germany 20/12/2007 14:40:02
#18 Antifa, there was me thinking you wanted to debate, where have you gone?.Still searching for the sensible majority?.
25

A Better Way,

22/12/2007 01:17:57
Antifa, steady on there, as a Social Democratic person I know my own philosophy demands adequate services for all. That does in no way support a massive beauracratic army that dominate the economy. Using the present London Levels as an indicator of where we should be going is completely wrong. Firstly because their Public Services record is not exactly some form of shining light. On the contrary Scotland should set targets that will suit the Scottish Common Good, which one would hope lead to further reductions once some of the ills we have inherited from 300 years of Westminster dictums. As I have said before on these forums, yes there will be many short term improvements in the Scots psyche just by being in charge of their own country, but the long term answers will take perhaps two generations with the change in the Scottish Education System to include the introduction of programmes to teach the real Scottish History and Heritage.

The SNP Scottish Government can only change so much within the union because our bought and sold current LibDem/New Labour MP's are merely puppets of the London system and our unjust quota of MP's have never been enough to give us a strong voice in Westminster. The English Peoples votes have ensured by their population that Scotland was an afterthought.



 

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