Thursday, March 11,
1999 By Tim Harper
Toronto Star Ottawa Bureau
OTTAWA - Senior Reform and Liberal women
squared off yesterday, trading charges over which
party is more demeaning toward women and which
side of the House of Commons is trying to keep
Canadian females ``barefoot and pregnant.''
But both may have been upstaged by Reform MP
Art Hanger, who was telling reporters outside the
Commons that women in the military should be
transferred to clerical duty the moment their
pregnancy is known.
The day marked some of the lowest points in
the ongoing debate over the tax treatment of
stay-at-home parents, an issue which has
unexpectedly dominated the Commons for almost two
weeks.
Liberal cabinet minister Hedy Fry accused
opposition Reformers of trying to keep mothers in
the home.
``When we take all of these divisive
statements being made by the Reform party, (then)
what we are trying to do is keep women barefoot
and pregnant,'' Fry said.
That drew an angry retort from Deborah Grey,
Reform's deputy leader, who responded as ``a
Reform woman.''
``I am not in favour of being in the kitchen
necessarily, unless I have that choice,'' said
Grey (Edmonton North).
``When I am at home, I am not in the kitchen,
I am at Swiss Chalet, so there.''
Grey quoted Fry saying anyone who wants to end
tax discrimination just wants to keep women in
the kitchen.
Fry quoted Grey as saying ``we should try to
keep mothers in the home. That is where the whole
Reform party hangs together.''
Neither indicated any context for the
supposedly damning quotes.
The debate continued the day after a
Reform-led motion to ``end discrimination against
single-income families with children'' was
defeated by a vote of 145-123.
Under the current system, a single-earner
family with children with $60,000 in income pays
$16,196 in income tax, compared with $12,188 for
a double-income family with the same earnings.
The difference is that the two-income family can
deduct child-care costs.
Finance Minister Paul Martin has referred the
matter to the Commons finance committee.
As soon as the Fry-Grey set-to finished,
Hanger weighed in with complaints about proposed
designs for maternity combat uniforms for women.
As soon as a female member of the military
becomes pregnant, she should be removed from
duty, Hanger said.
``They should be moved off into the office
into clerical positions, so there's no threat to
their health, absolutely,'' he said.
When a reporter asked about female soldiers
who might want duty such as ``mucking around in
airport hangars,'' Hanger seemed taken aback.
``Why would they be mucking around in an
airport hangar when they're four months
pregnant?'' Hanger asked.
``If it's a situation where there's excessive
labour involved, it would be detrimental to their
health. If they're not excluded from that, then
there's something wrong with the policy.''
A defence department spokesperson said
pregnant women are already banned from combat
duty. They are also prohibited from duty at sea,
participating in contact sports, violent
exercises, or obstacle course exercises and
cannot be on duty in aircraft ejector seats.
But they are given work commensurate with
their expertise and skills after consultations
between the soldier, her doctor and her
commanding officer, said Lt. Yves Vanier.
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