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[edit] February 11

[edit] adding information to a name that is matching the same name of another person

I would like to addinformation for fashion designer Lloyd Klein. I am the president of Lloyd Klein. I am a little overwhelmed and cannot figure out how to create information for Lloyd Klein. Currently when we search the terms Lloyd Klein we find only the great hockeyplayer of the same name.

Can you point me to the correct information about how to uplaod information specific to the fashion designer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanparis (talkcontribs) 00:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Disambiguation. The article could be called "Lloyd Klein (fashion designer)". But as president of Lloyd Klein you have a conflict of interest. That means you are strongly discouraged from writing an article about Lloyd Klein. See also Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is there...

...some kind of general template to alert editors that "HEY! there's a discussion on this article's talk page that you might want to read before you edit?" I didn't really see anything in "templates"....Thanks!Gladys J Cortez 00:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You could use {{notice}}. --Silver Edge (talk) 00:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requiring citations

Here's an almost completely unreferenced section of an article. I put a {{refimprovesect}} template on it. Should I also go through it and put in {{cn}}'s? There would be at least twenty of them.

Let's say I wait for two weeks or a month and nothing has changed. What then, should I put in some specific {{cn}}'s, leave it alone, or be the grim reaper? Cited NPOV would leave one or two sentences. And what should I be putting on the talk page to signal my intentions? Thanks! Franamax (talk) 02:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems the whole article needs references. I've moved the references tag to the top to cover the whole thing. You may want to add {{cn}}'s to some of the more critical statements, but the large ambox should get most of the message across. I wouldn't put the article up for deletion, even if the thing is ignored for a while, as places such as this tend to be inherently notable, and it shouldn't be too hard to find references anyway. Just keep checking on it, and call in the help of a few relevant Wikiprojects if you need to.
Of course, you could always do it yourself. ;-) Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, I would never put the whole article up for deletion, White Rock, British Columbia vies with Kitsilano as the Centre of the Universe :) I was specifically referring to the discussion of recent suburban development in the History section, which looks to be a whole series of opinions added piecemeal. I'm close enough to the action to add ref's, but I would run a mower through the middle of it first. I'll wait a few weeks, add some specific tags, wait a bit more, then think about a cited rewrite.
I'll take your advice on posting to the right projects, but hey, have you actually tried that lately? What is the sound of deafening silence? I know, put in an "inactive" tag for the project and go up a level.
Thanks, I'll keep plugging away... Cheers! Franamax (talk) 02:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I have, and gotten the same deafening emptiness you have, but asking someone who's supposed to be focusing on the subject is better than nobody at all. Good luck with the article. :-) Hersfold (t/a/c) 13:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] how to edit a page?

how to edit a page in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.224.28.13 (talk) 07:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

At the top of the screen for every article/page there should be an "edit this page" button. Click on that and you're on your way. Be sure to abide by our core policies and avoid make slanderous, profane, or obscene edits which would be construed as vandalism. Wisdom89 (T / C) 07:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
See more at Help:Editing. A few pages are protected and don't have edit links. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Resolved.

Hi, I wondered if anyone could please help with my picture problem. I have uploaded a photograph [[1]] and am trying to put it into this article [[2]] but it won't appear. What am I doing wrong?Southdevonian (talk) 11:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I fixed it for you, the JPG wasn't capitalized, that was throwing it off, I added some parameter tags as well. -Dureo (talk) 11:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks Dureo. Capital JPG - I shall remember that.Southdevonian (talk) 11:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that not all images use an all-caps extension. Image:Flag of the United States.svg, exists, for example, whereas Image:Flag of the United States.SVG does not. Hersfold (t/a/c) 13:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quickbar preferences

Hi, When I change the Quickbar settings in "My preferences" I can only change the location on the screen (right/left). But when I change from "fixed" to "floating" nothing happens. Isn't it supposed to be floating at the side of the screen regardless of the scrolling? Thank you, Iddoj (talk) 12:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I can't find this option in Special:Preferences. Could you point out which menu you're finding this in? Hersfold (t/a/c) 13:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
It's not in the standard MonoBook skin. See Help:Preferences#QuickBar settings. I use MonoBook and haven't tried this. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Posting my talk page

Hi

I have edited and saved my talk page, but am unable top publish this. Can you assist me please? 217.205.198.24 (talk) 12:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

When you make an edit on Wikipedia, your edits are immediately visible. You don't appear to have made any edits to your talk page, however - check your contributions here. If you were trying to edit a page, make sure to hit the "Save page" button after you hit "Preview". Hersfold (t/a/c) 13:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Maybe you have a dynamic IP address and edited the talk page for another IP. Or were you logged in when you edited? Here is general advice about creating new articles:
You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Legal Auditing entry

help: The entry for Legal Auditing is an advertisement for one, very controversial firm, that is not representative of the industry, which was pioneered in the 1990s by my competing firm. The information is also incomplete and misleading and references an alleged "association" that's also an invention, not a legitimate trade organization. Even the terminology "legal auditing" is questionable -- these are not audits in the same sense as the term is used by accountants. The firm that created the entry claims to have a trademark on some of these terms. We're not really interested in getting involved in a battle for control of this entry. The entry should simply be deleted until this industry matures and a true consensus can be reached. 13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed an improper WP:External link. The rest of the article seems okay but a second opinion would be good. Sbowers3 (talk) 17:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How can i make a page

How can i page a page about a subject IE a band or a local famous person??

Thanks Adam —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrrag66 (talkcontribs) 13:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Making a graph

How can I make a graph charting census statistics? I have three three different years, with a few statistics for each. Thanks! Seahamlass 15:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Wikipedia currently does not have graph making software installed (i.e. line graphs, bar graphs, and so on). You may find some hep in Wikipedia:How to create graphs for Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia does have the ability to create Tables and timelines. Hope this helps! --omtay38 17:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Changing signature

I want to know about changing signature. I have read the Wikipedia:Signatures, but their are no much information available. I have changed the signature in my preference by adding raw code in the "Signature box" of my preference. And enabled raw signature. I have some questions.

  1. What is the fuction of the "raw signature" buttom?
  2. The raw signature button states "If unchecked, the contents of the box above will be treated as your nickname and link automatically to your user page. If checked, the contents should be formatted with Wiki markup, including all links". What is indicated by "If unchecked"? What is "unchecked"? And what is indicated by "If checked"? How to "check"?
  3. I want to know about the color codes, i.e. I can change the color of my signature. Where can I find the codes of the colors? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Otolemur crassicaudatus, and thanks for your question. Here goes:
The Raw signature tick-box (called a 'check-box' in some parts of the world), tells the Wiki software to treat what's in the text box above in one of two ways:
If unticked (unchecked), to treat the contents of the box as your literal signature, and display it exactly as it's typed when you enter ~~~~
If ticked (checked), to treat the contents of the box as a line of code ( or markup) and try to interpret it. This means that things like an automatic link to your user page will not be included unless you type in the appropriate markup. Look at other editor's signatures in the edit screens to see how they've used markup, but please bear in mind that, even with markup, signatures should be reasonably short on the edit screens so as not to break up the text too much ;)
To alter the checkbox, just left-click it. Wiki markup uses either hex-triplets or colour names to set colours; there is a list of colours here to get you started.
Hope this helps! EyeSereneTALK 17:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moving Chatfield High School

Resolved.


The article Chatfield High School is misnamed. The correct name for the school, per its web page (linked to in the article) is Chatfield Senior High. I'd just move the page, but there are complications that are beyond my skill level: there is a redirect page for Chatfield Senior High, redirecting it to Chatfield High School; also there are maybe 25 links to the existing page.

It seems to me that we have it backwards: The page should be named Chatfield Senior High, and there should be a page redirecting Chatfield High School to that page.

Can somebody please just fix it? (Or tell me how, and I'll try. But I'm a bit concerned about messing it up.) Lou Sander (talk) 16:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Fixed by User: Friday. --omtay38 17:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
The "correct" place to get this kind of thing done is at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page deleted

My page about Dr. Theodore Geisel AZA #195 was recently deleted, but I did not copy my work onto a word processor. I checked if the administrator who deleted my wiki page (Irishguy) was on the list of administrators who could return the text of deleted wiki pages, but he wasn't on that list. How can I get my work back in order to edit it so that it will not be deleted next time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katavim (talkcontribs) 17:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I have emailed it to you. An article about an organization should demonstrate with reliable sources that it satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Most organizations do not satisfy our guidelines. Here is some general advice about creating articles:
Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Frankly, individual chapters of Aleph Zadik Aleph are unlikely to be notable enough to merit their own Wikipedia articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

Please pass this suggestion onto whoever manages Wikipedia.

First, I think Wikipedia is *phenomenal*. It was a masterstroke to develop this idea.

Second, I think it would be fun and would stimulate usage to give people a login tool, where whenever they fire up their computer, they're shown a random Wikipedia article, rather like the "featured article," when one starts Wikipedia. For many of us, it would be fun to start the day with a random bit of new learning. This could be done truly randomly, or an individual could pick a topic area (science, literature, people) and get a random article about that chosen topic (e.g., if they've selected "people" as their favorite topic, a random person's bio pops up when they start their computer).

I imagine this is probably pretty easy to do.

Rob Arnott —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.179.243.130 (talk) 17:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for your kind words about Wikipedia. It may interest you to know that nobody "manages wikipedia." Rather, everybody manages wikipedia. You can too, in fact! There is a login tool (take a look at Wikipedia:Why create an account?). As for the random page, we actually have a link (Special:Random) which you can access from the link in the toolbar at the left. If you'd like to be greeted by a random article everyday, bookmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random as your homepage. There are also a whole bunch of neat ways to find articles through the Main Page and through what are known as portals. Hope this helps! --omtay38 17:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Autograph license

Are autographs eligible for copyright? It seems to me that I saw on an autograph that it said that it was inelligble for some reason - but I can't remember where. If this is true, if I find an autograph that is published under a different license, am I allowed to change it because technically it is public domain? Save-Me-Oprah(talk) 17:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Uh.... I haven't a clue, and since this has sat here for two hours without a response, I'd have to assume most other Help Desk regulars don't either. However, if you ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, the folks there should have an idea, or at least know how to find out. Sorry to send you off elsewhere, but you're much more likely to get a response there, and a more reliable one at that. Good luck! Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Check out "Use of a Signature" here. Also, check out the fair use rationale for the images at [3]. Good luck, Noah 21:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I missed the most important reference, start here: Signature#Copyright. Noah 21:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] computer

what are the most important computer components? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.195.21.179 (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. --The Helpful One 18:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
You can also read our article on computers and come to your own conclusions.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] emailing

How do I send a page to my friends email? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdn chick (talkcontribs) 19:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You can save the page to your computer and send it as an attachment (File -> Save As) or e-mail your friend the URL. Either one works. If you're sending the URL, you might want to first click Permanent link in the sidebar so that the version you send doesn't change before your friend reads it. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 19:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portrait Image

Resolved.

Hey. I uploaded this[Image:Shiraz 1827.jpeg] image. Unfortunately it is in Portrait. How can I make it landscape?Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You'd have to rotate the image on your computer and re-upload it. Microsoft Windows allows you to do this while previewing the image. I've done it for you in this case, however. If the image doesn't appear properly, try clearing your cache. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanx so much! I'm not sure if I could have done it my self 'cuz I have a Mac. But i will try with another image. Thanx loads!Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 11:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Signature Queston and Hometown Question

Yeah, I got ,I signature up and everything, but shouldn't it say your username too? I'm currently just putting my Username in it, and then a Pagebreak, and then my signature. Is this the only way?

Also, if we visit our hometown's page, would there be a problem if on the discussion, you said that you lived there? Or is there a rule prohibiting this?

Thanks.

~The Unwanted Comment
A Dirge for her, the doubly dead. In that, she died so young. 20:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I think you may want to take a look at WP:SIG. Generally, signatures should carry a link to your user page or user talk page, and not be too long.
As for the discussion, it would be a good idea to declare any conflict of interest you may have in discussions. Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
(E/C) You sign your name here by typing four tildes (~~~~) which automatically formats to your signature when you click save (if this doesn't work, go to your preferences and uncheck "Raw signature"). You can place the tildes automatically by clicking on the editing button which looks like this: Image:Button sig2.png. I can imagine a good reason to mention you lived an a particular place, such as "the unsourced information about _____ is wrong, I know this because I lived there" or numerous other examples. Another words, there's no hard and fast rule "people are prohibited from saying where they live" anywhere on Wikipedia. Such a comment would be completely irrelevant, however, if placed solely for the purpose of saying it/claiming it, rather than in the context of a relevant post about the article, and it is likely to be removed if it has no purpose geared toward helping out the encyclopedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I think part of the problem you're having is that when you say signature, you mean the sort of signature people use on message boards and in forums. Generally, on Wikipedia, a signature is a way of signing your name that generally contains a link to your user page, possibly a link to your talk page, and the time and date you signed. Since Wikipedia is not a message board, chat room or forum, people don't tend to use the kind of signature you're talking about. Skittle (talk) 22:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Mmmkay... Thanks for responding. The information you gave me helped.:-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Unwanted Comment (talkcontribs) 22:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Wait, why does mine have Special contributions on it, and Fuhghettaboutit and skittle don't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Unwanted Comment (talkcontribs) 05:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Because you aren't signing. You're getting an automatic signature added by Sinebot, a bot that notices when people don't sign their names on certain pages. If you type ~~~~ at the end of your message, you should get something that looks more like mine -> Skittle (talk) 10:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] product not deliverd

my name is jimmy palmer i orderd a movie set of duck man and have not recived it i had gotten a confromation email but did not recieve the product please help my email is <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.151.21.102 (talk) 20:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Porgy and Bess

i need to find out the story of porgy and best and how black americans are represended in this film —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.236.31 (talk) 20:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Porgy and Bess (film).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) The Wikipedia article on Porgy and Bess is here, but the article for the opera version (click here) has more detail on what you are looking for - scroll down to the Racial controversy section. All the best, EyeSereneTALK 20:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit My Username?

Hi

For some reason when I chose a username, the Wikipedia site decided I wanted the first letter capitalised even though I don't and specifically entered a lower case g. Can this be corrected?

Thank you, username: gndb (incorrectly recorded as "Gndb")

Usernames always start with a capital. You cannot change that, but you can customize your signature to make a lower case letter and you can use {{Lowercase}} to display a lower case g on your user page. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Your user page at User:Gndb has not been created yet. Wikilinks automatically convert a lower case starting letter to upper case, so User:gndb would also work. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! :) gndb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gndb (talkcontribs) 21:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_made_the_first_bomb

Has anyone looked at the entry for this? It probably was made by an Iranian mullah! I am not exactly computer literate, so I can't fix it myself, but I think someone on your end should look at what you are being used for! Jim Cooper <emial removed for privacy>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.36.165 (talk) 21:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

A wiki is any site running wiki software—there are thousands of them. WikiAnswers is run by the Answers Corporation. Wikipedia is run by the non profit Wikimedia Foundation which is unrelated to WikiAnswers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, Wikipedia and that site are not the same thing. But thanks for trying to be helpful. FLc 22:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] signature cursor

I saw someone, I don't remember the name, with a signature that had the cursor being (when moved over the link), instead of a mouse, a crosshair. I know it was something like:

<span style="textdecoration:cursor:crosshair> signature </span>

Do you have any idea of what I can do to get that effect? FLc 22:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

<span style="cursor: crosshair">signature</span>

The above source gives: signature --Kjoonlee 22:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

TY, TY. FLc 22:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] edit counting

Is there any way to find out the number of edits that I have made in a particular namespace without submitting an RfA or anything like that? <sorry, forgot to log in> F*L*SUBS 22:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, here. Malinaccier (talk) 22:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My Toolbox

Could someone take a look at my User:Matthewedwards/monobook.js and help me figure out why the additions from Lupin (Filter recent changes, All recent changes, Recent IP edits, Monitor my watchlist, Live spellcheck) are listed twice. Thanks! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 23:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you fixed it yourself. [4] Can this be considered resolved now or are are you still getting two of them? • Anakin (talk) 00:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
It's fixed now, and so resolved. Thanks though! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 00:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Pages

How do you make a new page on a subject LittleRedeemer (talk) 23:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
If you still want to create an article after using the above help pages, see Help:Starting a new page. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 12

[edit] Adding {{SharedIPEDU}} to talk pages

Is there a way to add {{SharedIPEDU}} to many talk pages at once? (Like, mark all the talk pages of IP's that belong to a particular educational institution with that template?)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin 1998 (talkcontribs) 00:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is (part of) the intended task of IPTaggerBot, currently up for approval at WP:RBA. Algebraist 00:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
There's also SelketBot. • Anakin (talk) 00:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How to get initial capital letters into all words of a subject title?

For example, when my subject is "Holloway Sanatorium" I want the title to appear as that, not "Holloway sanatorium". I started my article with the following: Holloway Sanatorium was a hospital located in ... The article correctly starts with the words "Holloway Sanatorium" in bold, but the subject title is "Holloway sanatorium" in large. Not how I want it, but what can I do? Links to "Holloway Sanatorium" are not recognized! See the article mentioned. I would be grateful for any advice. P0mbal (talk) 00:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

If you want to change the title of a page, you use the move tab at the top, then make sure you fix any double redirects. Hope that helps. Cheers. Earthbendingmaster 00:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Y Done - Moved Holloway sanatorium to Holloway Sanatorium. —Travistalk 00:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] chemistry

magnesium carbohonate is added to an iron binding capacity determination in order to A. allow color to develope b.precipitata protien c. bind with hemoglobin iron d.remove excess unbound iron —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.155.150.73 (talk) 01:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

What is your question? The Help Desk is here to help with issues using Wikipedia. If you'd like to add material to an article, click "edit this page" at the top of any page. XENON54 | talk 01:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
This sounds like a multiple choice question with 4 choices. It's not intended for homework, but: Have you tried the science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] free DVD rewritable disc eraser.

Hi Team,I'm trying to find the above,but,i can't find one to download,i wonder if you could please help by Emailing me one or any sugestions.regards,Raymond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pesora (talkcontribs) 01:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hover Text

I remember reading on some page about how to make hover text. I forgot how, and I was wondering if anyone knew how to make it? SpencerT♦C 01:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC) (Hover text is the little box of text that comes up when you put your cursor over a link, such as this. Put your cursor over the link).

You are looking for {{H:title}} which is documented at Help:Wikitext. Noah 02:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
See also Help:Link#"Hover box" on links. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Help:Link#Miscellaneous contains a section on ""Hover box" on links". Try this: {{H:title|test me|please}} produces please (try hovering over that). --Coppertwig (talk) 02:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! SpencerT♦C 12:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How can I get the content of a deleted entry?

Resolved. Page content userified

I wrote an entry in August 2007 and it was deleted, apparently on October 27. I'd like to use that content for another purpose. How can I get it?

The name of the article was "Emily Posner" and it was deleted by a user named Tone. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwjdd (talkcontribs) 02:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You should contact Tone and ask to have the deleted content copied to your userspace.Travistalk 02:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I'll drop the content on one of your user subpages; how about User:Wwjdd/Emily Posner? Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 02:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Version of Image Displaying Improperly

Resolved.

I uploaded a new version of an image for the Info-Mac article, but the page shows the old image instead of the new one, and at the aspect ratio of the new image! The heck? Dpaanlka (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is because your computer's web cache has not been updated. Generally, browsers load images and text once; then, when you reopen a previously visited page, they remember the content and load it more quickly. However, if the images change but keep the same source URL, the browser will not recognize that they are different. In short, to fix this, just clear your cache by following the instructions here. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 02:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, but it definitely isn't a caching issue. It is displaying incorrectly on all browsers and all computers, even random computers in this lab that I've never used before. Dpaanlka (talk) 02:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, not a cache issue as I’m seeing the old image too. I purged the server cache to no avail. I’m stumped. —Travistalk 02:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, now suddenly it's working for me on all systems. I guess maybe that must have been it? Dpaanlka (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it is, but I don’t know why. Maybe it was a server cache issue after all. —Travistalk 03:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quiz

Moved from User talk:Jimbo Wales. [5]   Zenwhat (talk) 03:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

My quiz has been created about few weeks ago but nobody seems to know my quiz. I have already listed it at WP:FUN but I still get no response! How can I tell the others about my quiz and link it to Portal:Animals?--Mark Chung (talk) 02:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey there Mark! I believe we've crossed paths before. Although your quiz may have found it's place in the Department of Fun, wikipedia is, first and foremost, an encyclopedia. As a result of this, most editors may not be here at wikipedia to take your test. You may find some other locations for your quiz by checking out the wikipedia article for Online quizzes or by googling online quiz. Hope this helps! --omtay38 03:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Siting Wikipedia as a Source

I was wondering how someone would be able to site Wikipedia as a source with copyright, author, publisher, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.219.187.88 (talk) 03:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Hope that helps, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 03:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Translation sites

translation sites ,english to gujarati —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.223.133 (talk) 05:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Note that this is the help desk for questions about using Wikipedia, and Wikipedia doesn't have any translation services. But I did a Google search on "english gujarati online translation", and came across a few that might be good. E.g., http://www.oilzine.com/regulars/babelfish-translator.asp, or http://utopianvision.co.uk/gujarati/dictionary/, or http://www.freelang.net/online/gujarati.php. Hope this helps. • Anakin (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Correcting other people's typos

Well, I was looking at a discussion page, and someone made a typo. Is it alright if I edit their post out, so it's... readable, but still the same thing? This person made a few of them, and it was troublesome reading... —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Unwanted Comment (talkcontribs) 05:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

As long you are keeping their original meaning intact, feel free to correct major typoes. However, it isn't necessary to always spellcheck other editors' posts, as some people may dislike having their comments corrected. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 05:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Correct them yourself, or tell them by replying. Visit me at Ftbhrygvn (Talk | Contribs | Log) 07:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
If the problem is that it breaks the formatting of the page, feel free to do the minimum necessary to fix the formatting and note that you did that. While technically you could correct people's spelling and grammar in their comments, it is generally felt to be rude to do so on talk pages. In article space, go right ahead. If you're editing what someone actually said, people tend to take it badly. It's a bit like if you kept interrupting to say 'I think you meant to pronounce that ___" in a conversation, except that you're also making it look like they typed things they did not type.
By all means, if someone is making a consistent mistake find a nice way to point it out. Perhaps find a way of working versions of what they said into your own comments and type them correctly, so that you lead by example. If it's a mistake that really matters in terms of making a link work, or because they're going to include it in article space, point it out nicely. But silently 'correcting' people's comments on talk pages is likely to expose you to hostile reactions, plus they won't learn the right way to do it (unlike if you simply pointed the mistake out).
Worse than that, there is the very real danger that you will actually be changing what they said, or 'correcting' to a wrong version, because they were refering to something you were unaware of, using a word you didn't know or using a variety of English you are not familiar with. If somebody is writing with so many mistakes you can't actually follow what they're saying, nicely bring it up. Say something like "I'm having trouble following what you're saying. Do you mean'____'?". And always remember, he who lives by the sword... 130.88.140.107 (talk) 13:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good Faith vs Copyvio

I'm in the process of reviewing an article for GA status, but have run into an issue I don't know how best to deal with. The "problem" is that the text of the article is by far the best prose I've ever read on wikipedia—it's all written by one user and all sourced to the same book. So, I'm torn between assuming in good faith that this user is simply a very good writer, or protecting wikipedia from copyright issues if indeed the article has been plagiarised from the text. Any advice on how I should proceed? --jwandersTalk 06:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I would advise that you do your best to either get your hands on a version of that book, electronic or not, or see if anyone does have a copy, and compare the too. --Evan Seeds (talk)(contrib.) 06:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
You could try searching for the book using a Google book search. It may not be available or restricted too much to be useful but you never know. Has the editor who wrote the article written anything else so that you could compare his prose here with another example to see if there is a great disparity in writing ability?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Try picking a few sentences or phrases from the article and putting them through a Google search. It may be that another site has quoted from the book. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images not being displayed

For the past 3-4 days, i am not able to view the images on the main page. This includes the WIKIcommon logos at the bottom. I am using IE7 and have Norton Internet Security on my laptop, and was able to see the images earlier. However, i have not made any changes to the settings. I'm sorry, but i looked up the FAQ and tech.help, but could not find the answer.

C Ghorpade (talk) 07:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

There are quite a few things that could cause this. I know my mother recently ran out of room in her temporary internet files, so you can try clearing that. Take a look here at the 2nd option under Internet Explorer, entitled "To completely clear the cache". Xiong Chiamiov ::contact:: help! 08:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Also, surprisingly often, people unintentionally block images from Wikipedia. Check any image blocking software you might have to make sure that files from upload.wikimedia.org are allowed. • Anakin (talk) 15:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dual purpose: list & disamb

Is it ok to format an article to serve as both a list & disamb? It seems redundant to create two articles if one can accomplish both. Any recommendations? Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 08:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I'd hesitate to do that, since lists and disambigs are widely-used standard formats; although there is Ignore all rules and be bold. Why not just have a disambiguation page and no list page, and have the name of the list page contain a redirect to the disambiguation page? --Coppertwig (talk) 13:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Take a look at at Old Jail Museum and let me know what you think of the format. It already contains several redirects to the page. I realize that a List of jail and prison museums was just created, but it seems redundant to me to have both, including mainteance issues invloved in maintaining two lists that basically serve the same purpose. Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 13:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
My reasoning in creating a list in addition to the disambiguation page was because disambiguation pages have one purpose and lists have another. As more items are added to the list that have nothing to do with the purpose of the disambiguation page, the list page will increasingly diverge in content and organization. The disambiguation page should be organized for its purpose of disambiguation of names. The list page should be organized for its purpose. Having two pages is easier for the reader and no harder for the editors. Also, Wikipedia:Disambiguation states that disambiguation pages should only be used for disambiguation purposes. Noroton (talk) 16:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Coppertwig or anyone else, I’m curious if using the Old Jail Museum article as a combination of disamb & list violates the spirit or intent for use of these in Wikipedia. In this case, it just seems like a good opportunity to accomplish both in one article because of the limited number of these types of museums & I’m all about being bold & innovative as you suggest. FieldMarine (talk) 17:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I suggest that everyone interested continue this discussion at Talk:List of jail and prison museums, and I've posted a comment there. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adding information

Hi,

I got to know about an NGO called ETASHA, based in Delhi. However, WIkipedia has no information available about the same. I want to update the information for all to know about ETASHA's work, bu am not sure how to go about it. Please help.

Ritesh Datta (blanked email for privacy) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.224.71 (talk) 08:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

When you say NGO, do you mean non-governmental organization? FieldMarine (talk) 08:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
You can create an account. When your account is 4 days old, you can create an article. You can get more information here. Visit me at Ftbhrygvn (Talk | Contribs | Log) 13:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
You can actually create articles as soon as you get an account (some other things like moving pages and editing semi-protected pages requires 4 days old accounts). Here is general advice about creating a new article:
You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Refused Article?

Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to bring to your attention that a month ago or so I submitted a piece to be published on Wikipedia with regards to Antennae, the online Journal of nature in Visual Culture. It seems that my submission has not been accepted but as a member of wikipedia I have not received any email notifying me of the fact that the article was refused. Antennae, of which i am editor is a free, non funded online Journal devoted to the field of Animal Studies and Environmental Studies. The Journal, as my piece explained, is a unique focus for academic, artists and curators around the world. In my opinion it would be more useful to have the Journal on Wikipedia then to have articles around silly pop songs,(wikipedia is full of these).


Could you please have the decency to let me know what happened to my piece and what grounds it was deemed not publishable?


Kind regards

Giovanni Aloi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giovanni.aloi (talkcontribs) 09:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Your request was at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/2008-01-18#Antennae.2C_Journal_of_Nature_in_Visual_Culture. It was declined with the comment: “This suggestion doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance of the subject. See the speedy deletion criteria (A7) and/or guidelines on notability. Please provide more information on why the subject is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.” --teb728 t c 09:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Urgent Do it

Dear Sir I really shoked to see picture of Mohammad (PBUH) I Condemd it. Also asked to remove the picture from the web side —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.178.190 (talk) 12:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Please read the discussions at Talk:Muhammad and Talk:Muhammad/images. The consensual decision has been made that Wikipedia is not censored, and that inclusion of the images adds to the encyclopedic content of the article. AecisBrievenbus 12:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, editors have decided that pictures of Muhammad are acceptable, at least in some contexts like his biography and articles about depictions of Muhammad. Where is the picture that offended you? Depending on the picture and context, editors may choose to remove it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
General agreement is that in the article on Muhammad the pictures are acceptable, but an editor recently brought up more discussion about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Muhammad image controversy, a proposal to revisit, and I agree with him. I suggest you read the discussion there and if you think you can give a good reason for the images' removal that hasn't already been dismissed and rebuked before, then add it. • Anakin (talk) 16:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Expert locked out of editing by amateur

I am considered by the Blackjack elite Don Schlesinger, Stanford Wong, et. al.) to be the world authority on the casino games Spanish 21 and Australian Pontoon. I have written a book on the subject, "The Pro's Guide to Spanish 21 and Australian Pontoon".(http://www.lulu.com/content/1239961), yet "JayMcDonald" has blocked me from editing the very page I created myself: Pontoon (game). I spent two hours entering in the basic strategy table for the game, which is not available anywhere else on the internet (and took 6 months of computer programming to generate). The next thing I knew, all my work had disappeared, thanks to JayMcDonald. This person's actions run counter to the Wikipedia ethos, the propagation of human knowledge. JayMcDonald has also ordered me not to remove "facts", when I removed one line that is incorrect, and had no references. A "fact" stands up to the burden of proof, and proof requires references. Can someone please sort this out? If you have lay people like JayMcDonald locking out experts, Wikipedia will degenerate into articles full of opinions from amateurs. Experts will be reluctant to contribute. From what I have read, it is not the first time that JayMcDonald has been a Wikipedia control-freak gatekeeper; other Wikipedians have made similar complaints. In fact, he has taken out the entire bibliography of Pontoon (game), with all references deleted, so that the article now presents as unsourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iezegrim (talkcontribs) 12:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The editor who reverted you did not remove your charts. Your "reference" was malformed and hence preventing the page from displaying. The editor could have repaired the problem by closing your reference (when you open a <ref>, you must include a properly formatted close </ref>), but probably chose instead to remove it as I have done because the link violates our external links guideline. That guideline indicates that we are to avoid "[l]inks to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services. For example, instead of linking to a commercial bookstore site, use the "ISBN" linking format, giving readers an opportunity to search a wide variety of free and non-free book sources." If you wish to provide a more full link to the book you've authored, you may certainly provide more information, but linking to a store that is selling it is not proper. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
You say that you added material that "is not available anywhere else on the internet". Wikipedia is not for first publication of original research, but rather for sourced and verifiable information that has already been published elsewhere. Please follow the links in this paragraph to see some of Wikipedia's policies. Another policy, which you violated in your posting above, is civility. Please address yourself to the content, assume good faith, and do not attack other editors. Thanks, Bovlb (talk) 22:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 288 page

I edited a page for the ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione. After i finished, i saved it. later I looked it up and it WASNT THERE!!! What happened.

P.S. I am not a wikipedia user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.235.64 (talk) 16:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
We had an article title 'Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione', but it was deleted as a copyright violation three years ago. Is this the page you edited? The topic is currently covered briefly at Ferrari 288 GTO#Evoluzione. Algebraist 16:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict)What was the exact page name? The IP address used in your post has no other registered edits, Ferrari 288 GTO has not been edited recently, and Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione was deleted in 2005. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] teeth

what are the habitate affect your future —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.226.4 (talk) 17:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you mean. Can you please rephrase the question? We have articles on teeth and habitat. • Anakin (talk) 18:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
This page is for help with Wikipedia. Try the reference desk science. Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need help with wikitable

When a table is aligned to the right is there a way to align a simple note placed outside the table just below it together with the table? kawaputratorque 17:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is a caption. In HTML, you can use a caption tag to get the effect. I do not know of any way to do it in wiki-markup. -- kainaw 18:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Found the answer at Help:Table Caption. kawaputratorque 18:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Anyone know why the caption is in bold? I dont want it in bold. See the table here: Orang Asli. kawaputratorque 10:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It is not bold for me.--Patrick (talk) 11:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
The class "wikitable" uses the variables at MediaWiki:Common.css of which for captions "font-weight: bold;". You can override this by adding "font-weight: normal;" to the style clause in your caption syntax. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 11:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
(ec) Eh, its still bold to me. Could it be a problem with my browser? kawaputratorque 11:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Ah, thanks. Works fine now. kawaputratorque 11:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I want to close out my account ive created, and Have EVERYTHING deleted (only One Article repeated 4 times)

Is this posible? I want to start over, this website is not USER FRIENDLY AT ALL! I am starting to not like Wiki, can someone save me from this catastraphy?

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhiMediaInc (talkcontribs) 17:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I have deleted the image you uploaded and will blank your talk page. Starting over is a good idea, as your user name is problematic with regards to our username policy. Please see Wikipedia:Username policy. Taking the name of a company is not advised. Since you do not seem to want to have your previous edits associated with your new account, registering a new account may be your best decision. I'll note for future use that you apparently misunderstood and attempted to write an article in image space. These are distinct areas of Wikipedia. Once you've created a new account, if you'd like to create an article, please see Wikipedia:Your first article, which should hopefully give you all the information you need. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] how many combos

how many combos make $1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.122.129 (talk) 18:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is a math question. Ask it on the Mathematics part of WP:RD. This page is for questions about Wikipedia. -- kainaw 18:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] catalytic converter

How does a catalytic converter work and can its non-use injure a cars engine? Bob A —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.136.26.235 (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions about Wikipedia. See catalytic converter and ask on the WP:RD science desk if you have further questions. -- kainaw 18:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How can a user with only one edit and no record of deletions have a blank user page?

At the following link http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_National_Health_Insurance_Act&diff=190950543&oldid=187240562 I noticed that the user called The RADAR has only one record of contributions, has a blank user page with no record of deletions by any other user. Nothing wrong with that but it made me wonder how this can be? When I created my user page I got a welcome message and if I blank the page it will create a record in page history. How did this user manage to get a blank user page (and more to the point why would anyone want to do that)? Is this an indication that the user is also an administrator?--Tom (talk) 19:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The user talk page is created when someone first leaves a message there. Frequently the first message is a welcome message. It appears that no one has left them a welcome message yet. (It doesn't happen automatically.) --teb728 t c 19:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
That user simply never created either of their pages. Your user and user talk pages do not exist by default, and have to be created either by you or by another user leaving you a message, such as a welcome template. Unfortunately, not all users are welcomed, as it seems this one wasn't. No user with less than about 1000 edits would ever be accepted as an administrator unless they carried an exceptional level of trust with the community, which is what the application process is completely based upon. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Companies

I'm curious as to where the line is drawn for a company to be considered for a page. Is it revenue? A public vs. private issue? Cultural or historical importance? I see large companies like Microsoft, Boeing, Coca-Cola, etc. but then smaller companies are seen as only advertisements but what's the difference? If a company is a certifiable market leader, shouldn't they be considered? If someone could offer an explanation, that would be extemely helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptomisser (talkcontribs) 19:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The main concern is if they are notable. We have a special guideline for companies here that should be exactly what you're looking for. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Note that articles about notable companies can be deleted if they don't show the notability and are written like an advertisement, for example with positive claims about the company with no source, or the company itself as only source. If you are associated with a company you want to write about then see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] help with editing

If any experienced editors have time, would they be willing to look at an article I have on my subuser page? I know I can use help, especially with the footnotes. I will contact you if you tell me know your wikipedia-registered names. Thank you.--Voiceperson (talk) 20:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

That's great work, I can make some adjustments if you want. For those who don't know, the page is at User:Voiceperson/Ryan Allen. Soxred93 | talk count bot 21:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
It's already better than most new articles. Sbowers3 (talk) 22:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] media/ artist pages

Where would I find a template for an actor's page? I am trying to set this actor's wikipedia page up in a traditional actor's profile with all the commentary boxes and an image on the side. How would I go about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.166.19.239 (talk) 20:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You can use {{Infobox actor}}. Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers may also be of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Suspected Plagerism

I'm Rick James (film) - reading it, it sounds like a blatant copy and paste from IMDB or the official website. Can someone peep this out for me? I'm on a PC that has limited web access. --Endless Dan 21:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

It was a copyvio of both sites, more the official website. I removed the entire plot synopsis as it was copy/pasted by the looks of it from the official website. And now I will leave a message on the talkpage explaining the plot removal just in case someone misses the edit summary explaination. Thanks for pointing out the copyvio. AngelOfSadness talk 21:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed accuracy

How does one dispute the truth of an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.199.155 (talk) 21:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The entire article, or a specific assertion? Living or deceased subject? --Orange Mike | Talk 21:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Also are the assertions you dispute backed up by citations to reliable sources? Do you have citations which dispute them? --teb728 t c 22:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
If the article subject is suspected to be a hoax, you can tag it with {{hoax}} and consider taking to article for deletion. If there are certain facts in it that are unsourced that you think are wrong, they are unsourced, and you know better, be bold and replace them with correct facts, ideally citing to sources. If there are sources present but you don't think they back up what they are being cited for, some of these templates might be useful: {{citecheck}}, {{dubious}}, {{failed verification}}, or if the source is unreliable, {{verify credibility}}. However, if the material is negative or controversial, appears in an article on a living person, and is not well sourced, go ahead and just remove it. That's about all I can offer in the hypothetical, but see generally, Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles for where these and other tags can be found.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Endorsements

Not sure if this question is in the right place but would it never be appropriate in an article on, say a specific football club, dietary supplement, animal, or car, have a section for "endorsements", and in this section list famous people who (don't have any other merits beside being famous) use, endorse, or speak positively about the use/existance of that object? Or would it be a judgement call? --Popoi (talk) 21:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

If I saw such a thing, I would tend to regard it as advertising, and remove such grossly non-encyclopedic content. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Makes sense. Actually looking closer at the article in question, i noticed that it is a blatant attempt of advertising. ( Spirulina (dietary supplement) ) I'll look into a possible reversal --Popoi (talk) 22:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
What's the opinion on all of the musician articles which list what instruments they use, by brand name, and the tennis players, which list what company's equipment they use? Corvus cornixtalk 23:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Referencing - A pretty Version?

Just randomly ended up on the Playstation 3 wiki and my lord is the referencing section ugly ugly. It's got no less than 178 references - taking up about 5 screens worth of viewing! I was just wondering if there has ever been any consideration to have a 'reference' page added to articles -the little 'ref' links could still move to that page, but we could then move them off the main page as they are often (for me) making the pages a lot less readable/approachable than they could otherwise be. ny156uk (talk) 21:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This question is more suited for the WP:HELPDESK. I've made it 3 columns wide instead of 2, which thus makes it shorter... Looks a bit better now? ScarianCall me Pat 22:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
1. As far as I can see on Firefox, no, it's still two columns.
2. I agree with the first guy. That's pretty bad. F*L*RAP 23:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Really? It hasn't changed? I swear I changed the column width and made it into 3 columns... I'll take another look. ScarianCall me Pat 23:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Same here still on 2 columns (Safari). I guess there's not much we can do, but wondered if anybody had ever looked into redesigning the way ref's are noted for articles with large amounts of references. ny156uk (talk) 23:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I read on some common browsers that it'll always look like two columns. I've had another stab at it... Care to hazard one last look? ScarianCall me Pat 23:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Yep 3 columns on my browser. Fair bit shorter now - good work cheers for taking the time to look into it, i'm not really any good with the structural stuff on wikipedia. ny156uk (talk) 23:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] *Sigh...*

Why, when I first get on to Firefox and see the Main page, does my browser show that I am logged in, but when I go to any other page, it shows that I am logged out? I have been wondering this for a while and I can only presume that it has something to do with cookies, but...F*L*RAP 22:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Why don't you try purging the cache? Ctrl+F5... ScarianCall me Pat 22:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
TY. F*L*RAP 23:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dell E1505

Hello, I like to know will max 2gb work in the E1505 I have two 1gb but Like to install the one max for more speed,and make it 3gb, will it work or speed up my pc? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.108.173 (talk) 22:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Ummm... This isn't exactly the place to ask that question, but no, you're going to need a faster processor. F*L*RAP 23:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Don't tell people it's the wrong forum and then attempt to answer anyway. --Popoi (talk) 23:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 13

[edit] Column summation

I have a table with a column which consists solely of numerical values. Is there any way to define a footer row which calculates the sum of that column's cells? Specifically, I wish to automatically calculate the sum for the "Minimum" and "Maximum" columns (respectively) in the Template:Project Chanology protests, February 10 2008 table. Thanks in advance! CounterFX (talk) 03:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

One way would be to put the values in an array, so that they can be used for display and for computing the sum without putting them twice in the wikitext. Another way might be with JavaScript, like is used for sorting.--Patrick (talk) 12:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmm... I was hoping for a predefined solution like for sorting, but I don't think there is one. Thanks. CounterFX (talk) 12:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
And on second thoughts, I don't feel that the summation should be given for that particular table, since the entries only give figures for protests which the press happened to cover, and should not be taken as representing any "global total". CounterFX (talk) 13:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Direct find and replace function for Wikipedia editing

Is there any program anyone knows of that would allow me to do a find and replace function directly for Wikipedia articles using internet explorer? Sure, I can cut and paste text into an external editor but that intermediate step is a big time waster when you're trying to do somewhat robotic edits. To be clear, as an example, after I have disambiguated a movie title from "Name (film)" to "NAME ([year] film)", I want to be able to go to an article that pipes the link five times and in edit mode just replace all the "Name (film)" to "NAME ([year] film)". If no one knowns of scuh an add-on for Internet Explorer (which I'm pretty married to), can you tell me if any other browers allow you to do this directly? Thanks in advance.--68.237.2.101 (talk) 03:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe AutoWikiBrowser is what you're looking for. Of course, it will require you to create an account to use it. Good luck! GlassCobra 03:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate the link but a new browser is not really what I'm after (if it exists). I just want to search and replace in my normal browser, just like ou would in word with the find and replace function. It seems like it should exist. All browsers have find, someone should be able to make an add-on to make it find and replace.--68.237.2.101 (talk) 04:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
FWIW, Firefox users can do this with wikEd. Noah 04:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Incidentally, AWB is not an entirely new web browser, it's a program that automates various Wikipedia processes in conjunction with Internet Explorer. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Also see WP:EIW#EditSoft, WP:EIW#Bot, and WP:EIW#Tools. Unfortunately, a Web browser is a thin client by design, and typically has only a very simple built-in editor. This should eventually change as the Web 2.0 idea of mass collaboration catches on. (Wikipedia of course is a leading example of this.) The first 20 years of personal computing were all about companies like Microsoft making ever-thicker desktop applications with more more features, but they typically suck at sharing information with other people, so the common interchange format has traditionally been dead trees. Wikis are great for remote collaboration, but in the early going you have to give up the gazillion thick editor features many computer users take for granted now. I don't suppose fanatical Emacs users have this problem, since they can do everything in Emacs, including browse the Web. --Teratornis (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] part page transclusion

Is it possible to only transclude part of page, and not the whole page, for example to pull a sentence or two out of another article ? I have tried, for example, {{page#id of span tagged text}}, but it still pulls in the whole page. Pee Tern (talk) 03:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

No, you can't, although this isn't the first time it's been suggested as a feature (in fact, there might still be a similar query higher up on this page). What you can do is mark one part of the page to not appear when transcluded (by enclosing it in <noinclude></noinclude> tags), and/or mark a part to not appear when you visit the actual template page (by enclosing it in <includeonly></includeonly> tags). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Yes I am aware of the only/include tags but I wanted to have multiple different bits of text in an actual article transcluded, so they do not help unfortunatley. Pee Tern (talk) 06:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] article sub pages

Are article subpages completely banned? I had just created one and it got deleted almost immediately (because someone thought I was testing by accident, and did not ask first, and has since apologised). I wanted to use it to create a separately editable block of material without a section heading by transcluding it back into the main page with its own edit link. So, is it okay to do this, and if so how do I stop it being deleted by enthusiastic people. I do not want to protect it because it needs to be "normally" editable? If not, is there another way to do it? Pee Tern (talk) 04:05, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

As per Wikipedia:Subpages, no you're not allowed to use subpages in article space. In fact, article subpages have been turned off in the software, so that (for example) OS/2 is an article entitled "OS/2", not subpage "2" of the article "OS". In your case, you're just going to have to let the material be directly included in the article. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Sorry, I should have read Wikipedia:Subpages not so quickly! C'est la vie. Pee Tern (talk) 06:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
The page does ntot exist any more and I cannot find it referenced in the delete log. Is this normal? Pee Tern (talk) 07:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
The only registered deleted edit by you is the creation of /othertermdefn which is in the deletion log: [6]. I assume you wanted to use it for Law enforcement agency. If subpages were turned on in article space then it should have been at Law enforcement agency/othertermdefn to be a subpage. Page names starting with / are special. I used [[:/othertermdefn]] to make a link here from Wikipedia space where subpages are turned on. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
If you only want to use a piece of text in one article then I see no good reason to create it on another page. If you want to use it in more than one article then you can make a template in template space (starting with Template: ). PrimeHunter (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Folks, Thanks. Still learning the ropes I am. I was searching the log using 'Law enforcement agency/othertermdefn' and 'Pee Tern'. I am not sure how I created the page starting with a '/'. I used [[/othertermdefn]] on the page Law enforcement agency and then followed the link. I was trying to create a block of text with its own edit link that was not a section. For what it is worth, have a look at User:Pee Tern/Sandbox#Under Development where it seems to work exactly as expected. Cheers. Pee Tern (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Starting a link with / gives a subpage in your user space because subpages are turned on in user space. They are turned off in article space, so if you write [[/othertermdefn]] on an article like Law enforcement agency then "/othertermdefn" is simply the page name you get. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

I was copyediting 10th Guards Uralsko-Lvovskaya Tank Division and tried to amend the References section but it only shows references/ in the edit box. How/where do I find the reference page? (I've tried the help section on references but couldn't find it.) LuckyThracian (Talk) 04:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

With the <ref></ref> function, you place the references in the body of the article. When saved, where you see them is in the references section, after the reference markup such as references/ (or {{Reflist}}). Use the find function on your computer (cntrl+F usually) while in edit mode and search for <ref>. Each footnoted reference will be found this way. In that article, there is only one.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
See more at Wikipedia:Footnotes. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, got it! Thankyou both. LuckyThracian (Talk) 02:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Album Cover Fair Use

I uploaded a copy of an album cover I own where the article had the picture missing and I have tried to understand what I have to do to show it as fair useage but have drawn a blank. Is there a simple step by step function I should be taking? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simmouk70 (talkcontribs) 10:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Give WP:FAIRUSE a read through, perhaps? Hope it helps. ScarianCall me Pat 10:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Or maybe ask your question at the Wikipedia:Image copyright help desk... you may be able to get a more detailed response? ScarianCall me Pat 10:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I see User:Nanonic has added a pro forma fair use rationale. The only problem is that the image is at far too high a resolution for the rationale given to apply. You should reupload it at 300x300 px or so. Algebraist 12:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quantity of edits and editors

We would like to know where we can view numbers of edits of each individual article. We would also like to know where it is possible to see the number of number of unique editors (number of individuals contributing to the editing process) of an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.47.89.75 (talk) 13:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Every article has a page history which is accessible by clicking on the button labeled "history" at the top of the page. Using the history, you can see every editor who has edited, the number of edits, and it allows you to look at how the article existed at every point in its history and what each person did by comparing diffs. There are also various tools which draw statistics out of this function which you might find easier to look at for a broad overview. Enter an article name at this site.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:11, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Linking to an image page

Hi, does anyone know the syntax to link to a wikipedia image page? I can do it with an "external" link to to the full Wikipedia URL, but I imagine that shouldn't be necessary. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Surot (talkcontribs) 14:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

For any page you can insert a colon at the beginning to have it appear as a link rather than as (e.g.) an image. This works for Images, Templates, Categories. So [[:image:your image]]. Sbowers3 (talk) 14:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Great, that works just fine. Thanks for the quick response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Surot (talkcontribs) 14:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tomeraider 3 is shut down every time I look up words beginning with the letter "z"

Dear Sirs I visited your web site and downloaded wp-En-ppc-txt.tr3 (1.1 Gigabyte file) but I can’t look up words beginning with the letter “Z” because an error message emerges and the program is obligatorily shut down. The rest of the dictionary is usable but the above problem occurs when the words beginning with the letter “z” are entered to be looked up. Could you assist me solve this problem? Thank you for your hints. Sincerely yours M. Shamsara

my email address: <email address removed to protect privacy> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.165.26.81 (talk) 14:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.
However, I suggest that you may wish to visit the TomeRaider website for assistance. Thanks —Travistalk 16:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help regarding merging an Article

I want to inquire something regarding merging an article. Previous month i proposed merging of the article Risalpur Airbase to Pakistan Air Force Academy . I stated the merge proposal here and added merge template to the article Risalpur Airbase [7]. After about a month(24 days) was gone, i merged(Selective Merge) Risalpur Airbase into Pakistan Air Force Academy. And stated all that at the merge discussions [8]. Now a user reverted all the merging and said "Note that you cannot merge if you don't get a response. You didnt place the {{merge}} on either of the pages to show that a merge has been proposed." and also issued me notice {{Uw-notvote}}. So i want to ask that what one should do after that much time if still no one has responded to the merge proposal? --SMS Talk 16:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Merging is just a kind of editing. You don't need permission to merge any more than for any other kind of editing. It is a good idea to discuss on the talk page before any editing that might be controversial - not just merges. It is common to suggest a change on the editing page, wait a bit to see if there any comments, then proceed with the proposed edit or, in this case, a merge. I would ask the other editor to explain why he thinks that your edits are wrong - not in terms of the procedure you followed but in terms of the content. Sbowers3 (talk) 17:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Sure! Thanks a lot! --SMS Talk 17:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Second Link

Suppose I had ===Swordmaster Style=== several times in one article, and I wanted to make a link on another page to the second occurence of this. How would I do that?Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 16:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The first occurrence is linked to in the traditional manner – simply specify the page name, a #, and the section name (all without intervening spaces). Example: List of most popular given names#Male names. To link to subsequent occurrences, use the same notation as above, but add the occurrence number after the section name (with an intervening space). Example: List of most popular given names#Male names 2 for the second occurrence, List of most popular given names#Male names 3 for the third, and so on. I would recommend you to use piping to make the links better presented. Hope this helps! CounterFX (talk) 16:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
It does, thank you. But to remove ambiguity, would I be able to use List of most popular given names#Male names 1 for the first occurrence as well?Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 17:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
All section linking can be piped For example:
What the code is What it gives
[[List of most popular given names#Male names | Foobar 1]] Foobar 1
[[List of most popular given names#Male names 2 | Foobar 2]] Foobar 2
[[List of most popular given names#Male names 2 | Foobar 3]] Foobar 3
...and so on. Hope this helps! --omtay38 17:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
From empirical tests, adding a 1 for the first occurrence (e.g. List of most popular given names#Male names 1) does not work. If you're familiar with HTML: Only one named anchor tag is generated for each header – in the case of the first occurrence, it is <a name="Male_names" id="Male_names"></a>; for the second, it is <a name="Male_names_2" id="Male_names_2"></a>; and so on. Since for several situations (think talk pages) the lower sections would have been added chronologically after those above them, changing the anchor name for the first section would cause links already established to it (without the 1) to break. If you wish to give a consistent appearance, you could use omtay38's recommendation for piping. CounterFX (talk) 18:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Link

Why is there a link to the Wikipedia page for "Say Anything (band)" at the top of my firebox browser? And a Log in/Create account? I don't want them there. I didn't think wikipedia was into that unclassy kind of internet bullying. Tell me how to get rid of it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.117.108 (talk) 17:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Under the default Wikipedia style there is always a link in the top-right corner to Log in / create account (unless you log in, of course!), but I have no idea why there should be a link to an article about some random band. When you say it's at the "top of" Firefox, do you mean at the top of the Wikipedia page, or on a toolbar or bookmarks bar? It's possible you've inadvertently dragged a page to the bookmarks bar and saved a link to it. Or maybe somebody else used your computer and bookmarked a page. If that's so and you want to get rid of it, right-click on it, and click 'Delete'. • Anakin (talk) 18:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Violation of Wikipedia's policy on advertising and conflicts of interest on external links

For the past several days PoncaPortal has repeatedly posted an external link that violates Wikipedia's policy on advertising and conflicts of interest on external links.

What is the next step for handling this type of issue if it continues?

Best Regards,


Reservoirhill (talk) 18:20, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

First you would warn the user following the instructions on that page. Then, if the behavior persists, fill a report at Administrator intervention against vandalism. Hope this helps! --omtay38 18:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for the guidance. Reservoirhill (talk) 18:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Error

Every time when i logged into wikipedia I cant found my user page, instead of this i found:"Error, Setup.php must be included from the file scope, after DefaultSettings.php". If i not logged in, this time it also happens.But all other pages e.g. talk page, watchlist are okay.Everytime I've to purge. Without purging page is not showing. Clearing cache (both browser and server) is not solved the problem. What should i do? Tanvir che (talk) 19:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I had not heard of this error before. We can search the Help desk for: setup.php, but that finds nothing. We can search the entire Web:
which finds some mentions, but these all seem to involve people who get the error on their own wikis that they set up by installing MediaWiki themselves. I can browse to Tanvir che with no obvious problems. Are you sure are actually browsing to your user page on the English Wikipedia and not on some other wiki? Maybe someone else can give a better answer. --Teratornis (talk) 19:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I got that error a couple of times today. I am not sure what it is abour. I got it when I tried to edit user talkpages. I simply refreshed my browser (accepting the resubmittal of postdata) and it worked fine. You might want to ask your question over at the technical village pump. Regards. Woody (talk) 19:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I found another Wikipedia user who reported the problem:
so I guess it is possible to get this error from Wikipedia. The questioner mentions that the error also occurs regardless of being logged in. That seems to rule out any involvement from the user's Preferences. I have noticed that having an intermittent connection to the Internet can cause Wikipedia pages to download incompletely, and that can cause all sorts of weird problems, although I haven't seen this particular one myself. --Teratornis (talk) 19:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More on inserting copyright

Thank you for your response to my earlier question, but it isn't the type of copyright that has me stumped so much as HOW to insert copyright information. I do not understand the use of the templates, and cannot see how to retro fit copyright info onto the finished Agriculture in the Classroom page. Thanks --Akaitc (talk) 19:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I have had to delete an article you significantly contributed to, Agriculture in the Classroom. It was a violation of the copyrights of i.a. [9]. Articles on Wikipedia have to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License. If you want to know how to release the now deleted content, please read WP:COPYREQ. AecisBrievenbus 19:11, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
You should edit the image description pages, Image:AITC-IL-Germination.JPG for example, and insert the tag corresponding to the license you have been granted. --teb728 t c 21:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question on verifiable sources.

My question is what TRULY consititutes a verifiable resource. It seems several people seem to ignore the "rules" on this when taking over pages. The idea that certain people are in charge of certain articles creates a cronyism that doesn't gel well with the concept of Wiki's. FOr example, I have been fighting an uphill battle with the folks over on the "BIG BROTHER 9" page who post things that haven't happened yet by using a "live feed" as a source... of course this is NOT VERIFIABLE, so they should be removed. However hte cronyism comes into play, and the people who claim this page win out. This is what will be the downfall of Wikipedia - when people stake claim on articles without thinking of the overall good. RMThompson (talk) 20:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

We do have a guideline against ownership of articles - I'll take a look and issue a notice to the other editors if this is the problem. However, you are correct - live feeds are not verifiable or reliable sources. Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
After reviewing the article (I didn't really know what Big Brother was until now), it seems the other editors do have a point. Since this is an upcoming show, information may appear that isn't immediately available on something that is considered reliable. I know the while The Amazing Race is running, the article will be updated several times before the end of the show, before the verifiable results are posted on the website. Once the show begins, more and more verifiable sources will be present, and you will be able to confirm the information currently present with those sources. As was explained on the talk page, that is the purpose of the blue ambox message. Whenever an ambox is present on a page, it's a notice to the reader that information may not be 100% reliable, due to an issue that either needs to be corrected or will be corrected in time (as it is in this case).
If you're still not sure about things, you may want to open a request for comment to get some other opinions on this. First, though, I'd recommend trying to talk it over with the other editors. If things get too heated, step back and calm down for a while. There's plenty of ways to get this sorted out. Don't worry about it too much. I hope this has helped some. Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I just feel that the live feeds aren't verifiable and therefore cannot be used. What's happening is that an editor is watching the LIVE FEEDS and then changing the information based on what they see. However CBS has changed information in the past, so until something AIRS, I don't think it should be considered reliable. Im not concerned with information that will be available, but information gotten early, from watching the live feeds, and then leaked onto the main page. The main page is about a TV SHOW and the live feeds are NOT a part of that show, they are an option. The show has started, its not an upcoming show... Your example was Amazing Race, well what if someone posted results that hadn't happened on the show yet and therefore were unreliable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RMThompson (talkcontribs) 21:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Closing

Can someone point me in the direction of the closing templates so that in future i may close discussions? Simply south (talk) 20:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The template to use differs for the type of discussion. WP:DPR contains the code needed to close deletion discussions, although as you are not an admin, you should ideally only close snowball keeps, and also not close discussions in which you were involved. Allowing admins to close other discussions makes the process run a bit smoother. Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Not all discussions are deletion discussions. There are moving discussions discussions over issues etc. It is okay to do non-admin closures. What about closures where the person withdraws?
And thank you for that link. Simply south (talk) 21:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Creating an account; forgotten user name

I'm interested in becoming a contributer, so I looked into creating an account. However, I already have accounts on dozens of websites, and I figured I might have already created one here years in the past, but the standard way for me to check that is by entering my email address, and the website checking if there are any usernames connected to that email address. I found no such option on your site. What should one do if (s)he's forgotten his/her user name? I could create a new account, but OCD is causing me great worry over redundant accounts. Is it a problem to have multiple accounts? If so, or even if not, is there a way for me to regain info about an account (that is, username and password) using only the email address? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.238.147.221 (talk) 22:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You can try Special:Listusers to see if you created an account. Enter a name and if it appears as an exact match, then it exists. Unfortunately, if you didn't set an e-mail for your account, you have to create another one. On Special:Userlogin, you can enter your username and click "E-mail new password", you can try that if you have in fact created an account here. XENON54 | talk 22:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Annoyingly it isn't possible to email a new password without knowing the user name. But I would say - try not to worry about it if you try a few names at Special:Listusers and still cannot find any old account. There are over six million registered user names, the vast and overwhelming majority of which have never been used (I reckon). Unused accounts are harmless and can be ignored, being nothing more than a name in a list. • Anakin (talk) 00:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Note: I filed bugzilla:13015 earlier, asking for lost username retrieval as a new software feature. No guarantees on it being implemented, or how long it would take, but it's there. • Anakin (talk) 03:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
that you for the quick response —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.238.147.221 (talk) 05:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

Is it more appropriate to use <references/> or {{reflist}} on an article? F*L*RAP 22:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:Footnotes: "It is common when there is a long list of references (as a rule of thumb, at least ten) to replace the basic <references /> tag with {{Reflist}}, which reduces the text size to 90%." Hope this helps! --omtay38 23:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Numeric accuracy

I've come up against an editor who is fixated on writing percentages with 4 digits of accuracy, which I think is ridiculous. For example:

Boris Tadić won 1,457,030 votes or 35.39% in the first round. In the second round on February 3, 2008, he faced Tomislav Nikolić. According to final results Boris Tadić won the election with 50.57 % or 2,257,105 votes. [1]

I think this is silly for an encyclopedia article, and rounded the percentages to three digits of accuracy (personally, I think two digits would be most suitable),

Boris Tadić received 1,457,030 votes (35.4%) in the first round. In the second round on February 3, 2008, he faced Tomislav Nikolić and won the election with 2,257,105 votes (50.6%).[2]

but this editor reverts my edits. Is there anything in Manual of Style about this? Other guidelines? Thanks. --RenniePet (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The only policy I can find is at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Percentages. I'd say either bring it up on the talk page, or just let it go. As long as the percentage is accurate, edit warring isn't needed over one digit. --omtay38 23:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
(ec)Not really. MOS:NUM#Decimal places states:

The number of decimal places should be consistent within a list or context (The response rates were 41.0 and 47.4 percent, respectively, not The response rates were 41 and 47.4 percent, respectively).

and that is all it really mentions about your problem. WP:WPE&R (WikiProject Elections & Referenda) does not have any standards when it comes to the number of decimal places. XENON54 | talk 23:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you who answered. OK, I'll just let it go. But he really does irritate me - in another article he had written

On January 20, 2008, Nikolić won the first round with 39.99% of the vote.

I changed that to

On January 20, 2008, Nikolić won the first round with 40% of the vote.

and he promptly reverted me. I think it looks crazy, and makes people wonder about Wikipedia. --RenniePet (talk) 23:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Scientifically, and simplifying a bit, the number of significant digits is determined by the accuracy or level of error in the measurement. If the count is believed to be accurate to within 100 votes out of 1,000,000 then the percentages can be plus/minus .01%, so 4 significant digits would seem to imply that the count was accurate to within 100 votes in every 1,000,000 counted. If the count was only accurate to within 1000 votes in 1,000,000 then the the percentage should only be to .1%. But yes I too would think nn.nn% is a bit over the top! Pee Tern (talk) 00:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 14

[edit] Why are level 5 section headings minute?

When using a level 5 section heading it is only half the size of normal text, not bolded. Is this correct? Or is Internet explorer playing up on me? Pee Tern (talk) 00:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

To me it looks like the size of normal text... Do you mean a 'section heading' as in the equals signs? ScarianCall me Pat 00:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
That is level 6, not level 5. Level five is just bolded text (for all intents and purposes). Prodego talk 00:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The section headings between =s as in

======A Section Heading======

It is 6 =s which is level 5 because level one starts with 2=s?

It looks more like a page footnote than a section heading. Pee Tern (talk) 02:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Two equals signs is a level 2 heading. One equals sign (level 1 heading) is what's used for the page titles (and, against W3C guidelines, on long talk pages like this help desk for separating dates). Thing is, I don't see how a level 6 heading could be styled as anything else that would still be different and more diminutive than a level 5 heading, but different to normal text. But if any article needs that many levels of headings, I think it needs some serious restructuring! • Anakin (talk) 03:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Levels 1 to 6, a ha! Okay. I have toyed with the level 6 heading a few times and gone back to it a couple times as the better option. However, please feel free to have a look, at Law enforcement agency, and offer any me suggestions (it is still a work in progress). Cheers. Pee Tern (talk) 07:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WHAT HAPPEN?

No images are loading for me on WP... what's going on? Is there something wrong on my end or did the server get raped? Ziggy Sawdust (talk) 01:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Your browser may not be loading images automatically. I can't say much for other browsers, but if you have Firefox just go to the Tools tab, click Options, and access the Content tab. You should see a checkbox that says "Load images automatically"; if it isn't checked, check it. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 01:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Seems to me that this question has been coming up strangely a lot the last few days, so maybe there is something up with the servers. There was a very similar question to this earlier: #Images not being displayed, where I suggested making sure there wasn't any software, or the web browser itself, blocking Wikipedia images. • Anakin (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is there a way for a picture to include a hyper/wiki-link?

I want to be able to click on a picture and it take me to the website that shows my edit count. Is this possible? Thanks, PGPirate 01:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

There are two ways (that I know of) to do this; first, you could use a {{click}} template. However, that template is a bit messy when it comes to certain code/browsers. Another alternative is the imagemap extension. More instructions on how to use each can be found on the respective pages. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 01:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A Userbox

Where can i find the userbox stating that a user is going to be away due to mental illness? Thank-You. Yeltsinfan (talk) 01:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

You could just create one using {{userbox}}. For example;
This user is away due to a mental illness.
Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 02:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Banning

Does Wikipedia IP ban users such as "Physics Magazine Guy" a.k.a. Yeats30 who repeatedly post homework questions or break other such rules.(Anyone that looks at the science or math ref desks much will know who I'm talking about). It just seems something should be done. Thanks, Zrs 12 (talk) 03:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope. From Wikipedia:Blocking policy: "Users may be blocked from editing by an administrator to protect Wikipedia and its editors from harm." Posting to the WP:RD doesn't really cause harm. It may be a nuisance, but not harm. --omtay38 03:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Why not? Zrs 12 (talk) 03:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Because blocking is a last resort, and should never be applied freely. We only use it for blatant vandals and people who are being disruptive; minor things like this warrant a note on the editor's talk page, not a block notice. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 03:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Ah yes, I see. However, this user has been notified on his talk page. Yet he has still done it. This is a repeated, blatant violation of the reference desk rules. This does not cause harm per se but is still a blatant violation. And yet they still can't be blocked? Zrs 12 (talk) 03:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't this be considered trolling?--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 03:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion, I would consider it trolling. Directly from the article: "Trolling is deliberate violation of the implicit rules of Internet social spaces." However, this is not an official Wikipedia guideline page. Zrs 12 (talk) 03:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I think considering this trolling would be a stretch, but is a possibility. I have warned the user another time because he/she had asked another question after the previous notice. I'm not sure the course of action to be taken if this pattern of behavior continues. --omtay38 03:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Omtay. However, I think there should be (or maybe is) a guideline to deal with situations such as this. If there is not though, should a consensus try to be reached as to the action following another of these posts? Zrs 12 (talk) 03:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
If the user continues and pays no heed, then that's stepping into the realm of disruptive behaviour. If they do so, I'll warn them with something sterner. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 04:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Another approach would be to simply answer the question(s)... incorrectly.(sorry, I couldn't resist the smartass remark) Jauerbackdude?/dude. 04:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
No need to call people trolls behind their back! When people ask obvious homework questions at the RD, just explain that it isn't for homework questions, and ignore it. They won't keep posting if they get no answer. • Anakin (talk) 12:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
It's not necessarily trolling, although I suppose it could be construed that away after warnings and attempts at communication have failed and gone unanswered. However, all this behavior requires is a stern warning and a walk away. And as per above, label it a homework question and move on. Wisdom89 (T / C) 16:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Valentines Day

Does this have anything to do with St Valentie ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.212.193.204 (talk) 03:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Valentine's Day for more information. In the future, remember to use the reference desk to ask questions about specific knowledge; the help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. Thank you, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 04:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orignator of request for new article?

In Wikipedia:WikiProject Law Enforcement/Requested articles there is a request for a new article, Evidence Storage Unit. I thought I would do the article, but soon realised that the request could be for a either a 'physical container' (from a box to a room), or the 'organisational unit' which is responsible for evidence storage. How do I find what the requester intended? Or do I have to do both and disambiguate them!? Pee Tern (talk) 07:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, those are the possibilities... they can all fit in one article surely? Why don't you write about them all? Make sure they're all properly sourced and verifiable though! :-) ScarianCall me Pat 09:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Just my opinion, but I don't think it would be appropriate to put those different things into one article. (Go ahead if you disagree with me, though.) That would be almost like having one article called "mouse" that talks about both the animal and the computer thingy.
You could ask the requestor on their user talk page and see if you get a response. Or, you could just use your judgement: which do you think would make a useful Wikipedia article? Fly with it as if it's your own idea. Or possibly even have two articles, if you're inspired to do so and if the topics are notable: something like "Evidence storage unit (container)" and "Evidence storage unit (organizational unit)". (Or one of them could just be called "Evidence storage unit".) However, before creating such articles, check whether there are enough reliable sources that the topic(s) can be considered notable. --Coppertwig (talk) 14:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
In my view they are definitely two different subjects. However, I might end up doing one article on evidence management, and have, amongst others, two sections for containers and org units. There are PhDs on this stuff, so references will not be a problem, and have a disambiguation page or two for the possible "entry points". Pee Tern (talk) 23:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Examination of the page history shows that it was one of many additions made by Skysmith in [10]. The user is still active and can be contacted at User talk:Skysmith. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Of course. Thanks. Pee Tern (talk) 23:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Be bold. Add the disambiguation page and add both articles, since you and at least one other editor feel that we have two legitimate separate subjects. If you don't have time to expand both articles, leave one as a stub. -Arch dude (talk) 03:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Getting approval to use some one else's images?

I have found some images in a published article on the WWW with their use acknowledged back to the image provider, not the author of the article. These images might be very useful in an article I am working on. In approaching the image provider to ask if they would be prepared to allow me to also use them in Wikipedia, is there a formal standard set of information about Wikipedia and questions I should put to the image provider, so that they know about Wikipedia's copyright and fair use regime etc.? And, to make it easy for them to say yes! (The image provider is a Government organisation so I am assuming that there will be no commercial issues.) Pee Tern (talk) 07:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Although I haven't actually done so, I would advise informing the copyright holder GFDL. Wisdom89 (T / C) 07:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I think WP:COPYREQ answers your question. --teb728 t c 09:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Excellent. Thanks. Pee Tern (talk) 23:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Changing table text alignment

When a table cell is larger than needed for the text it contains, the text is automatically vertically center-aligned. Is there a way to change it so that the text is top-aligned instead? I'm talking about like in this table--I want the text in the "Oceania," "Africa," and "Asia" columns to start at the top of the cell instead of floating in the middle. --CrazyLegsKC 07:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

See m:Help:Table#Vertical_alignment.--Patrick (talk) 08:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! :) --CrazyLegsKC 08:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] How do you read deleted articles?

Resolved. It was a different article.

There was once an article called 'chakrology' which described chakras more concretely than the chakra article, even though I clarified some things in that article. I would like to read the old chakrology article, and I think some of it should be returned or moved to 'chakra.' How do I find it? Dchmelik (talk) 10:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, are you sure you got the name right? :) The page "Chakrology" has no deleted version, it is redirected to Chakra#Chakra_models, and relevant content has been moved there. ;) You could see the old version before redirection here. Hope this helps. --PeaceNT (talk) 11:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I am pretty sure I recall another more recent version of the separate chakrology page. Maybe it was 'original or unverified research.' It was about the number of chakra petals equalling the number of nerve pairs up to the vertebra of that number (I had found it to be very useful because it makes much more sense than petals having to do with vibration, which can vary much.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dchmelik (talkcontribs) 13:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Is this it? Petal (chakra). • Anakin (talk) 14:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, and I had just found that. Apparently someone removed the link from the main article; I will return it.

[edit] it support

what is the maximum number of employees in a company could be served by one IT technical support —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.139.87.226 (talk) 10:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

This help desk is for questions about how to use Wikipedia. You might try asking your question at the reference desk. --Coppertwig (talk) 14:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
And of course the answer would depend on the company, the employees' technical skill, what software and hardware they are using or attempting to use, the technical support person's skill, etc. Many open source products such as Wikipedia itself get along without any designated technical support employees whatsoever, because the users themselves help each other. (Some users take a liking to answering Help desk questions, and building tools to improve the Help desk efficiency, but we come and go as we please.) If you work in technical support or supervise a support department, you would do well to study how Wikipedia's Help desk manages to deliver technical support which is at least as good as commercial support, and without having to pay anyone to do it. This is not to say it would be easy to set up a corporate wiki and get the whole company to work as efficiently as Wikipedia does, but if you could do that, the results would be as wonderful as what you see on this page. --Teratornis (talk) 20:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

How can I upload my userbox onto the list? On my userbox list it's the French Canadian one. Speedboy Salesman (talk) 11:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, could you clarify which item you would like to add to that article? :) Userboxes are used only in userspace (i.e. your user page/talk and their subpages) Also, French Canadian already has an infobox, so I'm not sure which box you're referring to. Cheers, --PeaceNT (talk) 11:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Where is your userbox list? Where is the list you want to load your userbox into? (Please provide links.) I'm not sure if you mean userbox or infobox. Sorry for not understanding your question. --Coppertwig (talk) 14:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Under my userboxes, underneath the India and EU one Speedboy Salesman (talk) 14:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, look like I misread the question. Sorry. :) Look, I assume you mean

This user has French Canadian ancestry.

doesn't exist, unlike other boxes of the same type (e.g Template:User Germany , Template:User Greek etc) You can update the userbox list by clicking the red link Template:User French Canadian, copy and paste your own code (on your userpage) there then add the category Category: Ethnicity user templates to your newly-made template; the last step (but not a required one) will be to add {{User French Canadian}} to the list Wikipedia:Userboxes/Ethnic groups. That would do! Again, my apologies if that is not what you mean by the question. :) Best, --PeaceNT (talk) 14:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quickest way to undo a redirect

I redirected Blackwell, The Arts & Crafts House to Blackwell (historic house), which I thought was a more encyclopedic title. A user has redirected it back. How can I most easily undo the edit? The user is only editing articles related to tourism in the Lake District of England and doesn't seem to understand the difference between tourism promotion and WP. Thanks. Itsmejudith (talk) 12:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

What a mess! Conflict of interest, using Wikipedia for advertising and promotion, violation of the username policy, and a cut and paste move. I've stuck a {{uw-coi}} notice on their talk page but I'll leave the rest of this for an admin to sort out! Thanks for reporting this, Itsmejudith! :) • Anakin (talk) 13:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Wow, that's bad. Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen is the right place to report this as far as sorting out the redirect/move mess is concerned. (Reversing a redirect is normally easy (just use 'move'), but it won't work in this case because someone cut-and-pasted the move across at some point, and both articles seem to have history...) --ais523 13:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question about afghania

i don t know any province with name of afghania in pakistan.kindly correct it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.233.69.77 (talk) 12:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure which page you're suggesting needs a correction. The page Afghania is a redirect to the page "North-West Frontier Province", which says "The Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal, who have a majority in the NWFP government, have proposed Afghania as a compromise name." and has a footnote to support this statement. It looks OK to me.
If you see something you believe is wrong, you can be bold and fix it yourself by clicking "edit this page" at the top, or you can click "discussion" at the top and put a note on the talk page suggesting a change. --Coppertwig (talk) 14:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I expect they are referring to the Pakistan article. In this case it does not appear to be wrong. Perhaps the province is named something different in this user's language, but Afghania (North-West Frontier Province) does exist and is one of the four provinces of the country. • Anakin (talk) 14:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] water pressure & surges

In the middle of January 2008 I asked a question about water pressure & surges and received several answers.I would like to view this again but cannot find it. only the current two weeks appear to be displayed

                        robd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.238.70.70 (talk) 15:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 
Is this the question? Harland1 (t/c) 15:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming images

I uploaded Image:525678357 a1f505b489 b.jpg and I forgot to put in a more descriptive name. How can I rename the image to a more descriptive file name? Save-Me-Oprah(talk) 15:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

You can't rename images. Just reupload it with a better name and request deletion of the original with {{Db-redundantimage}} or something. Algebraist 16:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Image renaming βcommand 16:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I can't figure out what that page does. • Anakin (talk) 18:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
its an automated method of renaming images, see commons:Special:Contributions/BetacommandBot for an example. βcommand 18:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism report

User YismachYisroel is deleting places where name of the God of the bible is stated explicitly as "Yahweh" in english or hebrew or other languages. As far as I know, by the jewish religion it is forbidden to write it, and I guess this is why he does it. I undid his 2 edits. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 16:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I just want to see him come in here and delete "Yahweh" in my complaint. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 16:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
If the user continues, please leave a polite message/warning (better if it's personal first) explaining your reverts. If it continues or escalates level up the warnings. If they continue without answer best to report them to WP:AIV. If they do answer and do not agree with you, then it's most likely a WP:DR. Best to bring it up on the article's talk page too. Wisdom89 (T / C) 16:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New page

i would like to add a word that is not in wikipedia. how do i do that? thanks <email removed, read top of page> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.37.173 (talk) 16:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The pages at Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article should have most of the information you need. Before you begin, please carefully read through our policies and guidelines on notability, citing reliable sources for verification, neutrality, and formatting and article layout, where many new users commonly make mistakes. You may also want to consider checking out what Wikipedia is not, the deletion policy and criteria for speedy deletion so you know specifically what to avoid when writing your article. Please note also that Wikipedia is not a place to post newly created words, or neologisms. We also are not a dictionary, however if you find a missing definition of a real word in our sister project Wiktionary, you are welcome to add a dictionary definition there. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slavery

The first line of the entry pertaining to slavery is an inappropriate reference to Fredrich Douglas. How can this be corrected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.88.8.253 (talk) 16:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

It appears as though it has been. In most cases, you can correct errors or vandalism such as this yourself by editing the page - unfortunately, Slavery has been vandalized recently, so is semi-protected against editing by unregistered users. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
What is the exact name of the page you refer to? I don't see signs that Slavery has mentioned a "Fredrich Douglas". Is it an indirect reference which doesn't mention him and requires knowledge of him? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
It was vandalism of {{Slavery}}, which is transcluded at the top of slavery. Algebraist 20:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Printing wih hypertext

I work at a media library and help folks out when they get stuck on a computer issue. One man came to me trying to print an article off of your site. Now you folks have made it very simple to print and it is great, except that this man wanted to keep the hypertext highlighted. He likes to read the articles in bed and go through quickly, looking at the hypertext as resources. But you guys have no option of printing with the hypertext still highlighted. I was hoping you might be able to make that a printing option in the future. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.118.155 (talk) 18:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

If you do not select the "printable version", you will end up printing the page as-is, which includes all the hyperlinks being colored and underlined. The drawback is that the little nav menu is on the left side, making a rather large left margin. If you create an account, you can choose different "skins" in the "my preferences" section. There are skins that put the menu in a better place for printing. -- kainaw 19:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
What browser are you using, Kainaw? I've never actually printed a wikipedia page, but going by the print preview, both Firefox and IE will default to printing the printable version, whether you've chosen that option or not. Algebraist 20:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] problems viewing image page

I'm here on behalf of someone else who is having an image problem. I requested that a flickr user release a photo of Christian Bale under a free license (which he graciously did), but now he's having problems seeing his image credit page. I can see it fine by clicking on the photo in the article infobox, but he says "When I click on the photo in Wikipedia it tries to open http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Christianbale.jpg, which produces the following error: "No file by this name exists; you can upload it. For more information, please see the file's log." " This is strange, because when I go to that link I see the image page just fine. He sees the image when I send him directly to the commons page at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Christianbale.jpg . Does anyone know what could be happening here? I want to make flickr contributors happy and eager to help again. :) Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

It was a server cache problem. It gave me the same error when I tried it while logged out, but I purged the page and two seconds later it appeared. Hopefully it will work for him now too. • Anakin (talk) 20:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Colours in signatures

I've noticed that people have different colours in their signatures (rather than the usual blue), how is this done? Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 19:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

A good way how to learn how to do anything is to click the "edit" button, see how it looks in the edit window, then press cancel again. For example, if you clicked on "edit" on any conversation above involving User:Hersfold, you'd see this:
[[User:Hersfold|'''''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold</em>''''']] <sup>([[User:Hersfold/t|t]]/[[User:Hersfold/a|a]]/[[Special:Contributions/Hersfold|c]])</sup>
What that user did was to go to Special:Preferences, and in the User Profile tab (1) checked the box saying "Raw signature" then (2) added the text above, with all its HTML code and wikilinks, to the "signature" box.
A cheap-and-cheerful way of doing this, without learning loads of HTML and wikimarkup, is to look for another user with a style similar to the one you want, to copy it, and to play around with the result until you think it looks good. AndyJones (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
That exactly what i did. I got the same code from another user and played around with the color and stuff untill i got a nice thing im happy with :) BonesBrigade 03:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
You might see also Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help/Do-It-Yourself/Formatting Text for general instructions on formatting text (changing font, color etc.) :) --PeaceNT (talk) 19:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
If a signature has red links then it's usually because the pages have not been created. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't know what it is, but I'm certain that there is a limit to the number of characters you can put in your raw signature. So, keep that in mind if you want to create an obnoxiously annoying one with a lot of colors. -- kainaw 19:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
There are also other editors who will object if your signature gets to be too long, because when editing, it's hard to parse all of the signature code to get to the real encyclopedia. Corvus cornixtalk 21:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] uploading a file

I am trying to upload Dr. George Waring's biography on Wikipedia. (and seems like i may have done it 3 times already) however, when I search his name on the main page, nothing comes up.

Reading under "my contributions", it advises to tag a copy right.

how do i go about doing this? how can i make this page searchable and readable.

many thanks for your help.

Fariba19 (talk) 20:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

You have uploaded PDF files into what is supposed to be an image (e.g. a JPG). To create an article, read Wikipedia:Your first article. Sbowers3 (talk) 20:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I've tagged it as a copyright violation for deletion. The bio was taken from his web site. • Anakin (talk) 22:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] how to remove phantom subheadings?

In Talk:Alice Miller (psychologist) you can see below the boxes:

  • 1 More complete than the German counterpart
  • 2 Rating: Start-class

These are no equivalent subjects in the discussion pages. In fact, if you click on them they take you nowhere.

I believe the "More complete than the German counterpart" is an old post. But it's a phantom right now. How can I remove these two items so that the page looks neater?

Cesar Tort 20:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The sections you are referring to are hidden in the WikiProject Biography template at the top of the talk page. Click the show button at the right. Wisdom89 (T / C) 20:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh! I see. Thanks. Is it OK with policy to relocate those posts in the main talk?

Cesar Tort 20:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

if you want, you could relocate them to the archives for the talk page. Just cut and paste them. Wisdom89 (T / C) 20:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thanks! I'll do it. —Cesar Tort 21:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HOW DO I QUESTION AN ARTICLES IMPARTIALITY

How do I question an article's impartiality or neutrality as I see it? How do I question the accuracy or logic of an article? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickyfann (talkcontribs) 21:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Bring up your concerns on the article's talk page. Click the "discussion" button at the top left of your screen and start a new section by clicking "edit this page". Wisdom89 (T / C) 21:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Verifiability. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Article

How do you start to set up a page for a new entry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghteach (talkcontribs) 22:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 22:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Using non "cc" photos for info use

We really appreciate the info in "Wiki". We do some printing work using various world countries. We use maps from other sources but find some of 'your' photos very helpful in illustrating and learning about the country. This publication is sold to those who are interested in learning about these countries. There are no web links to this project whatsoever. Can you give us some direction on how to go about this project. Thank you in advance for your consideration in this matter.


Harlan <e-mail removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.200.59.59 (talk) 22:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! I believe you are talking about re-using wikipedia's content in other places. If so, you should take a look at Copyrights: Reusers' rights and obligations. Hope this helps! --omtay38 00:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
In general, the whole idea of Wikipedia is to let you use these images. However, we sometimes get into a mess because we also want to use images from elsewhere here in Wikipedia. So, for most images, we can use them, and you can also use them. For some images, we can use them, but you cannot. For each image, click on the image. This takes you to the image page. the image page has the copyright information for that image. Most images are copyrighted, but some are public domain. Most copyrighted images are under a license that permits you to use them subject to your compliance with certain conditions. Please read and comply with the conditions. You are a publisher, so you realize that copyright holders such as yourself have rights. Please honor those rights. -Arch dude (talk) 02:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] trying to correct an error

I added a fact to a page (Corn Mo) and you construed it as vandalism and reverted it. That's fine, but you didn't remove the whole addition and left it as an incorrect partial sentence. I tried to re-add the info, minus the link, and was warned again. So I tried to delete the entire phrase, in order to revert back to what was originally there and received an immediate and threatening warning. I am not trying to vandalize, only trying to correct an initial (well-intentioned) mistake.

The reverted sentence now reads "In April of 2007, Corn Mo & the .357 Lover performed as the backing group for Andrew W.K. in Denton, Texas at the anniversary/book release party." It should simply read "In April of 2007, Corn Mo & the .357 Lover performed as the backing group for Andrew W.K. in Denton, Texas."

I don't dare try to correct it again. Please stop yelling at me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.100.163.146 (talk) 22:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

This might be a clear breach of WP:BITE, if you are indeed new at this. I would drop a message on the talk page of the user and explain that you absolutely are not trying to distrupt wikipedia. Wisdom89 (T / C) 23:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I left a comment on your talk page addressing the issue. If it continues, I'll drop the user a line myself. Wisdom89 (T / C) 23:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I've left comments on the talk pages of the three users involved: User talk:66.100.163.146, User talk:Scarian, and User talk:Jacksinterweb. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, it's been a misunderstanding... I've explained myself on the IP's talk page here: [11] and removed the IP's warnings here: [12]. - I didn't really think much of this... I did honestly believe it to be just a spammer... Apologies for any inconvenience caused. ScarianCall me Pat 02:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 15

[edit] USING PROMOTIONAL/ENTERTAINMENT PHOTOS FROM 1940'S

I have several photos from the 1940's (a couple are from the early 1950's, prior to 1953) for illustrating my wikipedia entry, "Dixie Roberts", which i am currently working on. This is my first entry, i am VERY new at this.

The photos I have are all promotional photos that belong to Miss Roberts, she gave them to me to use for this purpose. Most of the images are just of her. However, one image is a promotional photo for the 1943 Ziegfeld Follies and shows 4 dancers: Miss Roberts, Penny Edwards, Mary Ganley and Pat Hall. The front of the photo has a logo on it, "Murray Korman, NY", but no copyright insignia. I would love to be able to post this one, especially, because of its historical value!

Some of the other photos are stamped on the back, such as"AL. HAUSER PHOTOS, HOTEL ABBEY - 149 W.51 ST., N.Y. CIrcle 6-9400"; or "Bruno's of Hollywood, Thanks for credit" including addresses in NYC and Boston. One of the Bruno's photos has a charming stamp on the back, it says "PLEASE CREDIT BRUNO OF HOLLYWOOD, WE MAY BE ABLE TO RETURN THE COURTESY SOMETIME."

One photo i would like to use has the following stamp on the back: FOTO FERNANDEZ, ARZ. MERINA No. 51, CIUDAD TRUJILLO."

I am reasonably sure that I can use these photos, I am just not sure how to catagorize them.

Thank you for any help you can give me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MimiBelle (talkcontribs) 01:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

You are entering a nightmare. This is NOT a situation caused by Wiklipedia. Current copyright law in the US (where the Wikipedia servers reside) is consistent with the Berne convention on copyright: copyrights belong to the photographer and the copyright exists automatically, with no need for formal registration. For works published in the US prior to about 1987 and never formally registered, the work may have fallen into the public domain, but I have not a clue as to how you can prove that. Works published in the US prior to 1923 are clearly in the public domain. The situation is an evil nasty mess that we must live with. Good luck. -Arch dude (talk) 02:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Click Template

In addition to what I'm doing on Wikipedia, I am working on another Wiki using the Media Wiki platform. I use the Template:Click here but would also like to use it there. Is there a way to export this template to the other Wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarverM (talkcontribs) 03:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, just copy the template source. Make sure you have the m:ParserFunctions extension installed, though. Good luck! Soxred93 | talk count bot 03:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
mw:Extension:ImageMap is better. Prodego talk 03:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
In case you didn't know, Prodego, {{Click}} uses Imagemap now. That reminds me, CarverM. You need Imagemap installed as well as Parserfunctions. Soxred93 | talk count bot 04:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I did not, thanks for telling me. Prodego talk 21:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikicharts

Any word on when it will be working or why it has not been working since late January? –thedemonhog talkedits 03:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

The error message I get (Couldn't select DB: Unknown database 'u_leon_wikistats_p') seems that the database for the tool is down. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 03:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Everything that uses the toolserver is down. :-( I hope they get it fixed soon. • Anakin (talk) 01:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Log in / 'remember me' problems

I've just today begun experiencing problems being kept 'logged in' to wikipedia. It seems that whenever I close my browser now, and then open it again and navigate to wikipedia, I've been logged out, and I have never encountered this before. I keep the 'remember me' box checked at log-in, and although I have my browser (Firefox) clear my browsing history and cache upon exit, it retains my cookies, which has kept me logged in to wikipedia previously. Does anyone know what is happening with my account being logged out? Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -albrozdude (talk) 05:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

In firefox under tools, options, security, do you have remember passwords checked off? Wisdom89 (T / C) 06:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
No, I have that checked as well. The strange thing is that this started happening suddenly although I haven't changed any settings on my end. -albrozdude (talk) 13:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Happening to me too, on IE6, starting this morning. Must be a bug. --barneca (talk) 13:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that it happened to me at work just now after upgrading Firefox to the latest version. Did you recently do this? Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Happening to me for Firefox and IE7. Only if I type "en.wikipedia.org" into the address bar though. If I click on a link in my history, it shows I'm logged in. The only exception to this so far I've found is if I click on the Main Page in my history. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
This is happening to me also. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.12 and Windows XP. I haven't upgraded the browser lately and I haven't changed any settings. — Mudwater 21:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I've changed nothing (no browser upgrades, setting changes). It just started yesterday for me, completely out of the blue. -albrozdude (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding my website

I notice that my research (non commercial) website has been blacklisted. I am totally confounded by this and request an explanation. I am considered an expert in the field of Proprioceptive Stimulation (Researcher for 37 years, Research Fellow at the prestigious facility associated with the Italian Ministry of Health)- See Feedback from Other Experts http://www.rothbartsite.com/Feedback.html

Waiting your reply.

Prof/Dr Brian A Rothbart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.14.11.72 (talk) 06:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see the external links guidelines for more information; generally, sources should be reliable. Also, please see the conflict of interest policy to avoid having a conflict of interest. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! 07:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I think the main issue here might be WP:COI since you are the author of the external site, which if you read WP:EL are links to be avoided. However, it seems the user's work has been published in peer reviewed journals, so this is a tough one to field. MoP, is there a way that you can request white listing so it could be used as a cite? Wisdom89 (T / C) 07:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand: which site has been blacklisted? Obviously not the one you link to above. --teb728 t c 08:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm confused, too. Professor Rothbart, can you tell us why you think your site has been blacklisted? It seems possible that someone has misinformed you. AndyJones (talk) 08:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Maybe you don't know what blacklisting means. See m:Spam blacklist/About and Wikipedia:Spam blacklist. A blacklisted url cannot be saved so http://www.rothbartsite.com is clearly not blacklisted. Is your complaint merely that links to the site have been removed after they were added? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I found it on a revertlist for a new bot at User:XLinkBot/RevertList. It's sort of a limited blacklist which doesn't prevent saving like the real blacklist. I don't know how it got there. Maybe somebody added many inappropriate links to the site. You can request removal at User talk:XLinkBot/RevertList. Note that a listing only causes a revert in some circumstances. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Undo while editting

I used to be able to undo some changes I was making while editting, but the last couple of days it stopped working for me. Is there something I should enable in my preferences? Thanks, Crzycheetah 07:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Some edits cannot be undone--namely those in the same place where the text has been changed by a subsequent edit. I wonder if that may be your problem. What happens when you try to undo? —teb728 t c 08:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
No, I am not trying to undo an already made edit. I am trying to edit a page and while my edit box is open I add new information, then at that time, let's say, I accidentally delete some information in the edit box and I want to right-click and click "undo" or just press "ctrl+Z" to get back the information I accidentally deleted. I used to do that, but now whenever I press "Ctrl+Z", nothing happens. My problem is that I have to start over my editting because of that.--Crzycheetah 08:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
That type of undo is a function in your browser or operating system. Wikipedia does not control how you write text in the edit box. Which browser are you using? Have you changed anything around when the problem started? Does undo never work at all? Does undo work in other programs? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Urine drinking

I won't want to drink my own urine,instead I drink my wife's, is the therapy effect same? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.21.155.92 (talk) 08:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 09:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Viewing images on Wikipedia

Hi,

I can't view certain images that people post on Wikipedia, mainly flags. Such as the Northern Irish flag Ulster banner. I've cleared my cache and even changed from Internet Explorer to Mozilla Firefox and I still can't see it... Help??? Speedboy Salesman (talk) 08:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

It's possible that you have anti-virus software turned on that blocks those images for you.--Crzycheetah 09:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Some images on upload.wikimedia.org actually contain /ad/ in the URL of the file name, which commonly causes them to be blocked by ad-blocking software (or did they fix this?), although the examples you gave don't. I can't imagine what could block them across browsers. Here's something to try though: If in Internet Explorer, right-click on an image that won't load and click "Properties". Copy the URL of the image and paste it into the address bar directly. Or in Firefox, right-click on the image and click "View image". This will give you the actual file displayed directly. If it's being blocked by anything, it will display the message there. • Anakin (talk) 01:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Article "Departments of France"

I would be interested to know why the above mentioned page takes an inordinate amount of time to load. I am running on a new PC with a 2.3 ghz processor, 2 gb ram, Windows XP, IE version 6. Mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.202.45.160 (talk) 09:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Probably because it has a ton of images - each one takes time to download separately from the article text. Sbowers3 (talk) 09:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CPA

What are the different matrices of CPA? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.200.33.226 (talk) 10:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Ask such questions at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 10:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Public domain?

Is it allowable to use an image when there is a resonable belief that is in the public domain? The image in question is [13], which is an advertisement from a magazine from 1926. The company being advertised has not existed since 1936. According to our article on the subject, a work from that era would have passed into the public domain before 1978 if the copyright had not been renewed. It seems resonable to believe that this copyright was not renewed considering that the company had long since ceased to exist. I can imagine some counter-arguments to this logic.

I think the key question is, can the image be used if the public domain rationale is reasonable but not certain? ike9898 (talk) 10:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

You might want to try Wikipedia:Image copyright help desk. Algebraist 12:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] problem

Hi,

I was trying to submit an article about Thermilate products and the admin deleted it straight after. I am an employee of Thermilate and I have a permission to use the information about our products.

I have had another account, called Thermilate, but was said that there is a a problem and I cannot use that name.

Can you tell me why I can't submite the information and how are we going to solve it?

Thank you for your co-operation.

Kind Regards,

Harshy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harshy (talkcontribs) 10:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Harshy, the problem with your account, User:Thermilate, is that we don't usually allow the names of companies in usernames as it can be seen as promotional. See WP:USERNAME.
Another problem is that you've admitted to being an employee of the said company which is a conflict of interest. It's not recommended that any user who is directly or indirectly involved in a company make an article about their company (And/or make major changes to an existing article about the company). Wikipedia is not an advertising service.
The reason why the article was deleted was because it was a copyright violation of the company's site. We cannot use copy righted material here at Wikipedia.
A good place to read up would be at Wikipedia:Introduction. I hope this helps. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. ScarianCall me Pat 11:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] deleted page

A page about Davy King was recently deleted. He is a published & broadcast writer & performer. His work is in the legal deposit libraries.

I wish to get the page back so it can be added to & re-edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curiousexplorer (talkcontribs) 11:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Please send me the code or contents of the page. If Wikipedia doesn't want it, someone else might be interested in the information.

Yours truly,

curiousexplorer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curiousexplorer (talkcontribs) 11:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello Curiousexplorer, after looking at the deleted page quickly it seems as though it was originally prodded for being a non-notable subject and thus deleted. User:Rudget deleted the article a second time for being a WP:TEST article. Try reading Wikipedia:Introduction to get a better idea on how to write articles. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. ScarianCall me Pat 11:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I see you have now created Davy King. The former version with content was deleted by User:Tone who can be contacted at User talk:Tone. It appears from [14] that you are Davy King. Writing a Wikipedia:Autobiography is strongly discouraged. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Untitled

hi, i was just wondering if when you edit a page will it become visibal to everyone who seeks the infomation?

and will you be able to check if my 'Shes Britney Bitch' article is visible yet. you can locate my article if you search for Britney Spears and my article is the first.

Many thanks, --Jordan Hale 12:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95jordan95 (talkcontribs) 07:39, 15 February 2008

Yes, as soon as you make an edit it's visible to everyone instantly. Your "article", judging by the title, would've been deleted almost immediately. Please read Wikipedia:Introduction for a guide on how to use Wikipedia. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. ScarianCall me Pat 12:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
(ec)Yes, it does become visible immediately. And thanks for asking because it let me remove your edit quickly. The encyclopedia is not a place for personal opinion; it is a collection of facts from verifiable reliable sources. Before you edit another word of the encyclopedia please read WP:NPOV and perhaps WP:Introduction and WP:Tutorial. We welcome new editors but we do have our way of doing things and we expect editors to abide by our policies and guidelines. Sbowers3 (talk) 13:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] nation rural emloyment gaurantee scheme by indian govt

knowledge about nation rural emloment gaurantee scheme by indian govt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.216.83 (talk) 13:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

See National Rural Employment Guarantee Act (NREGA) or a Google search on "National Rural Employment Gurantee Act". Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Great Depression

I was unable to EDIT the first part of - Great Depression.

(GOP or R) should follow Herbert Hoover's name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lvken7 (talkcontribs) 14:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Great Depression is semi protected so if you were editing from an IP then you couldn't edit it, but your account is old old enough to edit it. So try again making sure that you are logged in. Harland1 (t/c) 14:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
If the problem is that you don't know how to edit the top section, click "edit this page" on the top of the screen. All the other sections have [edit] next to the heading, but the top section doesn't so you have to edit the entire page. Sbowers3 (talk) 15:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
You can get an edit link for the introduction of a page at Gadgets in Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
And see: Help:Section#Section editing. --Teratornis (talk) 20:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Login Swelter

Hello! I tried to login (User: Swelter) but I forgot the pass. The problem is I haven't left an email there. So I can't get a new pass. Can you please delete my user-profile so that I can create a new one? Or can you send me a new pass to <email removed>? Thanks a lot! Mirko Krimmel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.199.188.45 (talk) 14:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is no way to delete your account, nor is there a way for anyone to reset your password. You will need to create a new account for yourself, however you may edit your old user page at User:Swelter to redirect to your new one. Hersfold (t/a/c) 14:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Creating a new account is the easiest for both you and Wikipedia. If you really want to keep the user name then you can try requesting usurpation. I don't know what the response would be when there are 3 unused edits from 2006 [15] to a later redirected page. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Sandbox

Why is this page always being blanked? :| I thought that only WP:SAND was the sandbox. D: ö 163.153.198.236 (talk) 15:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

The talk page is also considered the sandbox, so people can test with talk pages too. If you want to bring up a concern about the Sandbox, bring it up at Wikipedia talk:About the Sandbox. Good luck! Soxred93 | talk count bot 15:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Many new users are going to use the Sandbox talk page for testing whether or not it's intended for it. Accepting this seems a lot easier than trying to use it as a real talk page where tests would have to be manually identified and reverted, and the page history would become a mess. You can use Wikipedia talk:About the Sandbox instead to discuss the Sandbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Commercial DVD as reference

I would like to add information (filmography and additional facts)to an article about Darby Lloyd Rains that are from a commercial DVD. How do I cite the reference for that since the DVD is not "published" in the conventional way?

Citclab —Preceding unsigned comment added by Citclab (talkcontribs) 15:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

There is a way to do it, actually. Check out the video section on the citation template page. Noah 15:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
The link direct is {{cite video}}, but as Noah says, every citation template you could possibly need is in the link he provided. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] editing and then printing an article

I am doing some research on the Book of Job and would like to print out your page to help me get started, but when I just hit Print, it prints the entire website picture, which contains only part of the edited article.

How do I make a printer friendly copy of an article?

o/o Carol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carol251 (talkcontribs) 16:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Try the "Printable version" link that is in the left hand column (in the Toolbox section). Noah 16:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Logging in

I hope this is the right place to ask...

Every time I close IE or Firefox and then reopen one of them to come back to Wikipedia I have to retype my password, even though "remember my password" is checked. It started happening yesterday when I had Verizon put in. Before then I never had to log back in. From searching the internet I'm assuming it's something to do with cookies or a firewall, but I don't know how to fix it. It's a problem with Wikipedia only. With all other websites I'm logged back in fine. - Can anyone help please? -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 17:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

See this section a little bit up the page. I'm guessing it's a bug. Oddly enough, doesn't appear to be a problem when I use IE7 on a different computer; either it's fixed, or it's browser-dependant. --barneca (talk) 18:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
It's doing it in IE7 for me. The funny thing is, if I type "en.wikipedia.org" into the address bar, I have to log in. If I click on a Wikipedia page in the history (except for Main Page), it shows me already logged in. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I replied with this message above as well. I noticed that this happened to me at work just now after upgrading Firefox to the latest version. Did any of you recently do this? This might be the problem - kinda of a cache dump. Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
No. But I did install software from Verizon yesterday as I just got a new broadband provider. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
That been happening to me too. I also just upgraded to the new firefox and its been only happening since then. BonesBrigade 03:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Creation

Maybe I missed it but I have a few topics I would like to Add to wiki. How do I create a new subject definition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edemardil (talkcontribs) 18:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. —teb728 t c 18:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Don't forget either, that Wikipedia is a wiki, but Wiki is not necessarily Wikipedia. Soxred93 | talk count bot 22:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image links

How do I create a link to an image without actually causing the image to appear? There are a few explicit images that I want to report to WP:AN asking that they be added to MediaWiki:Bad image list, but I don't know how to add the links to the page without causing the images to appear.--Urban Rose 19:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Add a colon to the start of the link, thus: Image:Example.jpg. This also works with category and interwiki links. Algebraist 19:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GFDL

how do i apply or get license asap Henslee57 (talk) 19:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

It’s not what you are asking, but I suspect that what you want is advice on how to avoid deletion of your article on the Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio radio program. Your article needs to demonstrate the notability of the subject with references in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. —teb728 t c 20:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
If that was not it then please be more specific about what you want. Maybe GFDL, WP:GFDL or something at Wikipedia:Copyrights is of help. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template

Would i be fine adding this userbox {{User:Terra/Section 56/Userbox}} template, on Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia in section 10 where it includes user's own made userboxes, i was going to add it, without asking but thought it may be best to ask first. Terra Terra's talkpage 20:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

It's hard for me to think of any objection, but the only way to be sure is to ask on User talk:Terra. You might as well, out of courtesy. I can't see any harm in asking. --Teratornis (talk) 20:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Why ask on my own talkpage when i would be the only one seeing it. Terra Terra's talkpage 20:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I've just added it to section 10 on Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia. Terra Terra's talkpage 20:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Oops, I misread the question. The phrase "this userbox" had me thinking it was someone else's userbox (ordinarily people use "my" somewhere to refer to something they themselves made or possess), and "to ask" (without the "where") had me thinking you were going to ask on that user's talk page. My last chance to catch my error would have been to pay attention to your signature, but I find I have a harder time reading customized signatures. All the different fonts and color tend to throw me off. Yeah, that's my excuse. Stupidity on my part may have also been an issue. --Teratornis (talk) 20:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] putting a picture into my draft article

I want to upload my own pictures into an atricle i am drafting. These pictures are in my own computer, taken by myself, and I have no problem in putting them in the public domain. How do I get these pictures from my computer file into my draft user subpage?Adrian142 (talk) 20:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

  • If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|right|Optional caption.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, right with the alignment of the image on the page and Optional caption with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information.
  • If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy, because if you upload the image under a false license, you may be blocked.
Hope this has helped. Xenon54 20:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
The above (canned?) answer might be confusing to someone who created his or her own images. In that case, the user is the person who gets to choose a suitable license. (As an aside, this is another reason why I would like to modify the standard response templates so they clearly look like messageboxes, rather than looking like they are spontaneous replies.) --Teratornis (talk) 20:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reporting bugs?

With regards to the problems mentioned earlier here and here, is there a technical help desk to report Wikipedia bugs? -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 21:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

The process for bug reports and feature requests for Wikimedia is described on this page. Noah 21:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I've got a question...

I came across this (01:50, 5 February 2008 (hist) (diff) m Wikipedia:Non-administrator rollback‎ (Remove random line) (top)) and removed the phrase strike through text, but I don't know what stuff like this is about. Can someone tell me please? Andrew Kanode (talk) 21:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

It was added by User:Random832 here, probably as a result of accidentally clicking the 13th button above the edit window. Algebraist 21:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Maybe you are asking about the markup: If you add "<s>strike through text</s>" in the edit window, you get "strike-through text" in the article. —teb728 t c 22:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Andrew Kanode (talk) 01:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image link is broken now

I had uploaded our U's logo. It is named University_of_Northwestern_Ohio_logo.jpg earlier today and it seemed to work. I went ahead and put it into the article and all seemed well there too. Now it is later and I wanted to add some more content. I noticed that the logo image was "X"ed out in IE. When I went back to the logo page, it was "X"ed out there too, the link was now broken, like the file wasn't there anymore. I'm not sure now how to fix it. I would like to upload a couple more pictures but I want to make sure that I'm doing it correctly. Can someone look at what I've done to see if I did something wrong so that I upload the other pictures correctly? Or, do I just need to upload and replace again?

Thanks for any help you can provide.  :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LeBlancJ (talkcontribs) 21:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

It would appear Firefox does not like displaying the image or the server doesn't like serving it. I get this error when clicking on the link in the image page: The image “http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/University_of_Northwestern_Ohio_logo.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors." You might try re-uploading it. Noah 22:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't look like it's uploaded properly. Image:University of Northwestern Ohio logo.jpg is a red "x". You probably saw it when you first uploaded because it was still in your computer's cache memory. Corvus cornixtalk 22:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
There is definitely something goofy with the version you uploaded. I was able to download it by right-clicking and doing Save As. I then opened the jpeg and resaved it (using Gimp), it went from 500kb to 8kb. I would recommend doing the same thing. Noah 22:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
The second version you uploaded was somehow broken. I reverted to the first. —teb728 t c 22:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Permanently block my IP address

I am the tech administrator for a private school in California, and none of the edits from our shared IP addresses have been useful. To discourage these sorts of edits while still allowing access to wikipedia, I was wondering if there is any way to permanently block our IP address from anonymous edits. That way if someone wants to make a useful edit, they can do so using an account. Thanks!

Ampersand17 (talk) 22:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Blocking policy. I don't know the IP's in question but we don't like blocks to hit innocent people. It can take a lot to block a shared IP address, and such blocks are rarely long. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
At my school, the IP adress is registered as something which makes people log in before they edit. When I forget to log in and try to edit, a Wikipedia page comes up with a template on it that states I have to log in to make a contribution. I will look on Monday and see if I can help. In the mean time, does anyone know what I'm talking about? Zrs 12 (talk) 00:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, in the event of shared IP addresses or school addresses, a "soft block" can be made that only blocks non-registered users. However, the blocking policy specifically states "IP addresses should rarely, if ever, be blocked indefinitely." Many people prefer to make anonymous contributions for various reasons, but still edit constructively. Those people cannot edit if their IP is indefinitely soft blocked. Admins also do not block on request of the intended blockee. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the best way to do this would be for you, as tech administrator, to block your computers (or network control point) from accessing URLs at wikipedia.org containing "&action=edit". That will stop all editing from your network, but sill allow reading Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prodego (talkcontribs) 03:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
That approach would block logged-in as well as anonymous edits. —teb728 t c 03:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Well yes, but I assume that is the idea here, no? Block Wikipedia editing in general. Prodego talk 03:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Read the original post. —teb728 t c 03:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Reply here" talk page convention?

I prefer not to have conversations split across talk pages. If a user posts to my talk page, then I prefer to respond there; if I post to another user's talk page, I ask them to respond there and I watch the page for a while. Explicitly stating this policy in every new conversation is tedious, and there must be other editors who agree. But I haven't found any standardized etiquette, convention, guideline, user talk page template, etc. that expresses it. Is there one? (Reply here, if you like. ;) Joshua R. Davis (talk) 23:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

{{Usertalkback}}, when placed on the top of your talkpage, will alert users to your talkpage procedures. See the template page for details on parameters - it can be modified to suit anyone's preferences.Xenon54 00:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] flyordie was deleted

one of the admins Andronic deleted this article because he said it was not important who <personal attack removed - Corvus cornixtalk 00:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip1990 (talkcontribs) 23:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Always WP:AGF. It was deleted under WP:SD I'm assuming. Those are tagged by users, placed in a category and then admins delete them if they meet the criteria for speedy deletion. What was the given violation on your talk page? Wisdom89 (T / C) 00:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually it was deleted for not asserting / indicating importance, not because it "wasn't important". See Wikipedia:Notability (web) for the criteria for web sites. • Anakin (talk) 01:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
And see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if you are associated with the site. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiquote template

Do we have a mainspace template that basically says, "please consider moving this quotes section to Wikiquote instead." I'm pretty sure we have one, but I don't know how to find it.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 00:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes: Template:Copy to Wikiquote and Template:Copy section to Wikiquote. • Anakin (talk) 01:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 03:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rename to simple redirect not working

I just tried to rename "Yellow Fever (Hot Tuna album)" to "Yellow Fever (album)", per the guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums#Naming. I got a message saying "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid...." The new name is a redirect page with no prior versions in its edit history, so I thought that this move should work. Thanks in advance for any help or insight. — Mudwater 01:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

You can move on top of a redirect only if it is a redirect to the article you are trying to move. In this case only if "Yellow Fever (album)" redirected to "Yellow Fever (Hot Tuna album)". So you'll have to request a move. Sbowers3 (talk) 01:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I didn't know that. Thanks! — Mudwater 01:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
No need to request it, I have done it for you. Prodego talk 01:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing Question

I am a Master chess player and writer who is attempting, for the first time, to edit your excellent chess page, with a minor revision, in the post-1945 section.

I make my changes, click save, but find that the entire section seems to be absent.

Please advise.

Thank you very much.

Andrewjsacks (talk) 04:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

The edits worked just fine; the changes are there: [16]. It might be a page caching problem: try refreshing the page. That said, the changes you've made so far seem to suffer from WP:PEACOCK problems; please glance over that essay briefly. The Evil Spartan (talk) 04:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Logging out everytime I close my Browser

Everytime I close FireFox I log out...same thing happens with IE. I clicked "Remember me". I've never had this issue before...help! Knowitall (talk) 04:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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