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[edit] Yemen

Oops, sorry about that.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I've also tried fleshing out a few of the Yemeni towns like Ataq, Ja`ar and Al Kawd. One of those xxx is a village stubs actually looks like this if you care to zoom in on google maps. At least google maps are now improving so you can actually see these settlements exist. Lawdar District is currently the centre of violent riots which nobody else on wikipedia knew of. A coincidence as I happened to be starting it and picked it up on a google search. Just shows how much of the world is undocumented on here. but then again deepest Yemen is pretty out of it. The districts of Somalia and Egypt will be started in due course. Actually the vast majority of the xxx is a village type stubs created in the past which looks like the middle of a desert for places like Iran, Tibet and Yemen thankfully can now be seen using google maps. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:56, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Wow, who'd have thought that one of my Yemeni geo sub stubs would have actually had people living in it, let alone a munitions factory eh? I'm being sarcastic but this is exactly what i mean about life taking place in such parts of the world which the rest are mostly ignorant of.. Who'd have thought that any of those Yemeni villages would ever hit front page wikipedia news..♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:47, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] The Anomebot2 and PL wiki

Hello, at User:The Anomebot2 you noted in 2008 that bizarrely-formatted disambig pages were causing problems for importing geodata from PL wiki. There are now over 10,000 articles about Polish places needing geodata, some or perhaps many of which have the data in PL wiki. I wonder if it's possible to look at this again, see if there is still a problem and if there is if there is a way to fix it? Thanks in advance, SeveroTC 07:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I and other WP:POLAND editors can help translate messages between editors here and on pl wiki, if needed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 14:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello! The major problem with geocoding places in Poland is the large number of cases of multiple places in Poland with the same names, and the relatively low coverage of the Geonames database. This makes it hard to perform cross-matches between names and places, with many false negatives. Worse, in the past there were many pseudo-disambiguation pages for villages in Poland that described only one village, with mentions of multiple other places in the same article, but without creating those articles. Combined with the limited coverage of the Geonames database, these led to false positives where a false one-to-one correspondence caused the wrong villages to be matched up with a particular set of coordinates.
With the help of several other editors, I carried out a more detailed analysis that attempted to cross-correlate Geonames locations with gmina boundaries, based on bounding boxes collated from existing Wikipedia articles. This was then used to drive an altered version of the normal one-to-one matching algorithm used for other places. I may be able to re-run this, if I can remember how to work it by re-reading the code, and to regenerate the various intermediate files from the Wikipedia data and latest Geonames data.
I have also recently performed a mass update using data from other-language Wikipedias, which copied around 6000 geocodes from other editions of Wikipedia, and should have copied many of the coordinates from the pl: Wikipedia to en:. However, the data from other Wikipedias dates back to May of this year, and many newer coordniates may remain to be copied from pl: -- The Anome (talk) 11:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I have now done another interwiki pass, based on live data rather than dumps, which has copied geodata from the pl: Wikipedia into another 1000 en: Wikipedia articles about places in Poland.
The other option of another full gmina-level disambiguation run from dump data is too much effort at the moment: it's not just a matter of re-running software, there are numerous manual checking and testing steps which would need to be repeated, and manual fixups of outliers, in order to ensure that the input data was consistent before doing the final reconciliation run. This would take several days of work. -- The Anome (talk) 16:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks very much for looking at this (and completing around 10% of the job!). There does certainly seem to be a little imagination lacking when it came to naming places (how many Dąbrowa's are there?!) which isn't something we can overcome, but, for anything we can improve here on Wikipedia that will make runs easier in the future do let us know. One question about the most recent run: did it only look at places (towns, villages etc) or anything with co-ordinate data? Thanks again, SeveroTC 16:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
I looked at all en: articles where the en: article belonged to one of the Polish {{coord missing}} categories, and where the pl: article pointed to by the en: article's interwiki also contained an unambiguous and well-formatted external coordinate link. A number of special cases will have got missed due to a number of shortcuts I took to make the job easier, but manual spot-checking seems to show that this bot pass has been fairly successful in catching most of the remaining cases. -- The Anome (talk) 17:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a stab at it. User:Kotniski is our (WP:POLAND's) resident expert on locales and things such as disambig, you way want to drop him a comment on the difficulties. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. User:Kotniski is indded the expert on this; they have already given me a great deal of help on this, by setting up the gmina bounding boxes used by the cross-correlation program. I'm now taking a look at the OpenStreetMap data set for Poland, to see if it has any data that might be of use. -- The Anome (talk) 18:02, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
I've now taken a look at the OpenStreetMap data for Poland: it's in a well-thought-out XML format which is surprisingly easy to parse and analyze, but, on inspecting the data, all of the easy match-ups to Wikipedia seem to have been done already, with only partial data for the remaining 500 possible candidates for matching. -- The Anome (talk) 11:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Keith Madeley

Why does Keith Madeley have a Wikipedia entry at all? He does not fit any the criteria and most of the links do not work. In addition, he is <redacted>. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spamfinder (talk • contribs) 09:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Can you provide any evidence for your assertions? If not, you cannot add them to the article. If you believe the article does not belong on Wikipedia, you may nominate the article for deletion using the Articles for Deletion process. -- The Anome (talk) 09:44, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


[edit] Speedy deletion of "100Gbit Ethernet"

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Thank you. WikiTome Talk 14:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Please see http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%2240Gbit+Ethernet%22 and http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22100Gbit+Ethernet%22 -- The Anome (talk) 15:01, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of "40Gbit Ethernet"

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Thank you. WikiTome Talk 15:00, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Please see http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%2240Gbit+Ethernet%22 and http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22100Gbit+Ethernet%22 -- The Anome (talk) 15:01, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] The Image novel

Contacting you because you started "The Image (novel)" article at Wikipedia. Article copied to LGBT Wikia, but has been nominated for deletion. Hope you have time to look at http://lgbt.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion#The_Image_.28novel.29 and post a reply there. --EarthFurst (talk) 20:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine with whatever the LGBT Wikia decides about that article. -- The Anome (talk) 21:30, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] The left hand of the authorities devises a list of symptoms, and the right hand harasses dissidents into reporting those symptoms.

In reviewing your edit history of psychology-related articles, it appears you are pushing a POV. It's not clear to me whether the bias I perceive is malicious or not.

Here's something for you to think about:

http://areyoutargeted.com/2010/11/tricking-targets-mental-illness/ Jeremystalked(law 296) 21:06, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Can you be more specific about the nature of the POV you believe me to be pushing? I'm not aware of anything in my contributions that might be controversial within the context of Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policies. -- The Anome (talk) 21:29, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Any NPOV discussion of delusions should include the possibility that the person diagnosed with them is being harassed into reporting their symptoms. At a bare minimum, a link to Political psychiatry under See Also sections would be appropriate.

An example of POV editing: linking a type of delusional ideation to homicidal impulses.[1] Jeremystalked(law 296) 18:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Can you provide any verifiable cites from multiple reliable sources to back those up? If so, you might want to add them to the article, following Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policy (remebering to bear in mind WP:UNDUE). -- The Anome (talk) 14:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] coord missing oddity

Hi, Pretty minor issue but this edit added coord missing to a revolution/war. I browsed the categories and their parents a bit, but didn't see anything leap out to me as "Oh, that's causing a mistaken assumption this happened in one place." Figured I'd mention it. (Also, while wordy, it might not hurt to add a reason behind these bot additions - i.e. "Adding coord missing because is a subcategory of Military Installations" or the like). SnowFire (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination of Foxy boxing for deletion

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[edit] Culture of fear

This is an article that you have edited in the past and you appear to me to be an active editor on Wikipedia today. You may wish to be aware that the article has been nominated for deletion. You can can comment on the proposal by following the link in the panel referring to the proposed deletion at the top of the article. Kind regards --Hauskalainen (talk) 00:29, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Kochi Prefecture

HI I created this categry for geo coordinates. You may wish to alter the other missing from japan to kochi. If you could use the bot to add coordinates to the Japanese dams I create from J wiki this would be great.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:26, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Category:Kōchi Prefecture articles missing geocoordinate data already exists, so that's already sorted: the bot will recognise both "Kōchi" and "Kochi" as spellings of the prefecture name. The Japanese dam articles sound interesting: there's not a lot of geocoding on jawiki, so I'll take a look. -- The Anome (talk) 14:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Update: I've fixed the tags in those articles to point to Category:Kōchi Prefecture articles missing geocoordinate data instead. I'll soft-redirect your category Category:Kochi Prefecture articles missing geocoordinate data to the older category. -- The Anome (talk) 15:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Micronesia

Hi can you add the coordinates to the new stubs by Ser Amantio? I added a few.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] List of geological fault of Wales

Hi The Anome, I reverted your edits to List of geological faults of Wales because most of the blue links are redirects to the list article. An editor (now banned as a sockpuppet) made microstub articles of the form 'The xxxx fault is a geological fault in Wales' as their only content. Following a discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geology#Query on notability, advice sought., I took on the task of reviewing all the faults in the list and deciding whether there was enough material available to write stand alone articles. I'm part way through C at the moment, but will create genuine stubs for those where there is sufficient information and redirect any existing microstubs back to the list article. In many cases these faults are shown only on a single geological map, or may have a single mention in a book with no details. They should be in the list article but are unlikely to ever merit their own articles. Mikenorton (talk) 19:28, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] BOAC Flight 712

I've reverted this edit, which placed the accident in Chadwell St Mary. Mjroots (talk) 06:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've removed the coordinates from the pl: article as well. -- The Anome (talk) 18:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] The Anomebot2 coord errors

Recently, The Anomebot2 has added a number of coordinates with source:kolossus-dewiki and invalid region codes: [2], [3], [4] ... It looks like the first character after the hyphen is getting lost somewhere along the way. --Stepheng3 (talk) 19:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

You're right. Unfortunately, the error is in the source data as it appears in the Kolossus pub_C_geo_id.csv dump file (see [5]), so I have no way of detecting it unless I have a list of subregional codes I can validate this data against, or if I was to laboriously validate the subregional codes against each individual source article (and since there are roughly 6000 of them left, this would be a significant effort).
Do you know of a suitable list of codes I can use for this purpose? Failing that, I guess I can parse the relevant data out of ISO 3166-2:MX and similar articles, but it seems like a brute-force (and non-authoritative, because this is Wikipedia) way of doing it. In the meantime, I will stop the bot edits. -- The Anome (talk) 19:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I've compiled a list of the bad ones I've seen so far. See User:The Anome/pages with bad subregion codes in geotemplates. -- The Anome (talk) 14:17, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I've gone over the list on that page, and I think they are probably all correctly fixed now. -- The Anome (talk) 15:31, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on this. I don't have access to an authoritative list of region codes; I discovered the errors while working through Dispenser's daily report. Best regards, --Stepheng3 (talk) 22:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
The bot has also added coordinates with region:XA: [6], [7], [8]. --Stepheng3 (talk) 22:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Interesting. XA is part of the private use area in ISO 3166-2, and seems to be being used here to mean "ocean", "international waters" or similar. Since it isn't an official code, I'll suppress it from my bot edits. -- The Anome (talk) 12:56, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Update: I've now found and fixed the remaining 10 of the 15 region:XA entries added by my recent bot run. -- The Anome (talk) 13:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. On enwiki at least we use region:XZ for international waters. But if we're unsure how the code is used, then probably best to suppress it as you've done. Merry Christmas! —Stepheng3 (talk) 23:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Aircraft articles

Hello, Anomebot2 is adding co-ords to aircraft articles which is causing a bit of effort to undo all the time. Any chance of stopping it adding co-ords to things like aircraft that do not need it, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 19:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I can do that. Can you give me some examples? I can do that in the bot heuristics, once I've done the work above to validate the region codes. -- The Anome (talk) 19:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Understood, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 19:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I'd greatly appreciate it if you could provide me with two or three diffs of the bad edits, so I can double-check what's going on by hand. -- The Anome (talk) 19:57, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
OK. I'm going to start by investigating the aircraft ones, and then move on to ships later. This CatScan search (edited results) should find the entries that have been added mistakenly to aircraft articles so far. It's not as simple as it might seem: some air accidents are listed under aircraft subcategories, but are valid candidates for coordinates, so I can't just use the keyword "aircraft" to filter these. I'll think about it more, and try to come up with a better heuristic. -- The Anome (talk) 14:27, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
"aircraft" and not ("accidents" or "incidents") is nearly enough to do it, but misses some cases of individual aircraft that are on public display. More to come. -- The Anome (talk) 14:54, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Appreciate your efforts on this Anome, if it turns out we have have a few articles that need hand reverting it is not a huge problem as you say accidents should have coords and individual aircraft that still exist (although we dont have that many of them). MilborneOne (talk) 15:06, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

"aircraft" and not ("accidents" or "incidents" or "individual") nails it for all the cases I've seen so far. I've added this to the bot code, and will now clean up the existing outliers by hand. Next, ships. -- The Anome (talk) 17:31, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I haven't seen any examples of bad ship edits yet: the one you cited, the USS Enterprise CVN-65, is correct, as that appears to be the current at least semi-permanent, and possibly final, location of that particular ship. If you can show me some bad ship edits, I'd be happy to hunt down other similar examples and fix them, in the same way as the above. -- The Anome (talk) 17:58, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

[13] [14] two ships (well one ship and one submarine - both scrapped) MilborneOne (talk) 18:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Update: I've finished my review of the geocoded aircraft articles that seemed worth a second look, see User:The Anome/Aircraft coord catscan results 2010-12-30. -- The Anome (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Looks OK - not a big fan of inline coords they are very distracting in the text and a bit indiscriminate but I understand that is not your problem and not related to the work the bot is doing. MilborneOne (talk) 19:02, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
By the way, since you're online at the moment, I wonder if you could do me a favor and take a look at the geobox for El Hondo, which seems completely broken? -- The Anome (talk) 19:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Dont think it has ever worked some of the fields are not in the template not even coordinates, I will have a dig around and see if anything can be done. MilborneOne (talk) 19:31, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
El Hondo fixed. MilborneOne (talk) 19:42, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 23:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Sociology membership

I see that within the last year you have made at least one substantial comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sociology, but you have not added yourself to the project's official member list. This prevents you from, among other things, receiving our sociology newsletter, as that member list acts as our newsletter mailing list (you can find the latest issue of our sociology newsletter here). If you'd like to receive the newsletter and help us figure out how many members we really have, please consider joining our WikiProject and adding yourself to our official member list. Thank you, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 13:42, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] DEFAULTSORT values

I reverted your deletions because I had left information of the DEFAULTSORT tag. ie: to sort Chapel of the Resurrection (New York City), as Resurrection Chapel (New York City), etc., including a number of the St. XXX's Church, where articles linking to them originally were titled Church of St. XXX. The church title was mistakenly left out in a number of articles leaving (New York City) alone in the DEFAULTSORT. The mistakes have been corrected. Thank you for the notice.-- James R (talk) 16:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Puzzled

Hi. Just wondering why {{coord|18|31|N|91|26|W|source:kolossus-eowiki|display=title}} has been added by your bot to Carmen, which is an opera, not a place. Or am I missing something? Best. --GuillaumeTell 17:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting that: it's clearly an error, and I can't really see where the coordinates might have come from within the Kolossus dump: I can't see any trace of it in the eo: article. I've now added operas to the class of creative works to which my bot will no longer add geocodes. And, while I'm at it, poems as well, making my category keyword block list for this now ["songs", "albums", "novels", "stories", "anthems", "musicals", "poems", "books", "plays", "films", "movies", "novellas", "documentaries", "operas"] -- The Anome (talk) 17:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Found it. It was a bad interwiki from http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmen_%28komunumo_en_Campeche%29 . -- The Anome (talk) 17:51, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Interesting! Thanks for disentangling. I bunged the coord into Google maps, and got a location in Newcastle upon Tyne[15]! Mexico looks like a more appropriate place. --GuillaumeTell 18:02, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Anomiebot is doing this all over, recently to bran (a foodstuff) and equestrianism (a worldwide sport)

[edit] Argh!

Argh! Please accept my apologies. Unfortunately, it's pretty much impossible to make 6000+ bot edits and not have the bot make the occasional nonsense edit, particularly when it's taking human-entered data from one wiki and adding it to another. Thanks for correcting both of these: I'll take a look, and add heuristics to the bot to make sure similar errors do not happen in future. -- The Anome (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
OK, "sports" and "ingredients" are now added to the bot's category keyword blacklist. -- The Anome (talk) 22:58, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I forgive Anomebot, as long as it continues to get better. The concept is a nice one. Montanabw(talk) 23:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
It will keep on getting better, I promise, and I have lots of other cool geodata stuff on the way. Also: I've just added "ballets" and "treaties" to the list of things it won't geocode. -- The Anome (talk) 23:30, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
And "firms" -- The Anome (talk) 23:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't use interwiki coords for BC items; alternate legit sources exist

I just corrected teh coords for Fraser Valley, which your bot provided from French Wiki, and for Kitsilano, from Slovak wiki; and have corrected both French and Slovak pages with the correct coords, which can be found in BCGNIS. I don't know if it can be parsed easily, likewise CGNDB for other Canadian items, but they're "archival sources" and official. I have a CSV copy of the provincial gazette, which is the basis for BCGNIS, it's probably easily parseable, so email me if you'd like a copy to work with. Some entries such as "Salmon River" and "Black Creek" will need human discernment because of multiple entries. NB there are lots in the coord-missing directory that just shouldn't have that in them, which are not places or, e.g. with electoral districts, no official sources for the centrepoints exist.Skookum1 (talk) 20:21, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't use interwiki coords for BC

Please disarm your bot for entries in British Columbia; coordinates provided from interwiki sources are not accurate, and the two I've fixed so far were wildly off Fraser Valley and Kitsilano; the first was sourced from fr-wiki, the second from sk-wiki, but given that those pages in French and Slovak are not properly sourced (coords or otherwise), why are you using them as a source? The Kitsilano item was on Hollyburn Mountain in West Vancouver - has a view of Kitsilano, but it's not Kitsilano; the Fraser Valley coordinates were in Rosedale, in teh upper end of teh valley northeast of Chilliwack; I adjusted them to the coordinates of the old District of Matsqui, which is about centre (more or less). Core source for coordinates in BC is BCGNIS, for Canada as a whole CGNDB, though not sure how/if they can be parsed botomatically.....I have a copy of the provincial gazette, which is a CSV file and is the basis for BCGNIS; if you'd like a copy email me and I will forward it; there must be way to integrate/parse its coordinates by bot. Some discrepancies will result, especially in cases like "Salmon River" or "Black Creek" of which there are many entries and will require human discernment.Skookum1 (talk) 19:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

I've stopped the bot, and will investigate. I'll need a bit of time to write some scripts to filter out the possible offending edits, since this might be part of a large problem, so please expect me to get back to you about this sometime tomorrow.
In answer to your question: when performing interwiki copying, the bot currently blindly trusts any coordinates added in any edition of Wikipedia, after applying some very simple sanity checks. Although this seems like a poor policy, it's actually rather effective -- good data vastly outnumbers the bad, and bad data is typically caught quite quickly either by human review, or a large number of automatic tools which attempt to check Wikipedia coordinate data for self-consistency, and to cross-check it with outside sources. This is a classic case of the "Worse is Better" successive refinement strategy on which all of Wikipedia is based: over the long run, good data drives out bad, rather than the reverse.
Once a problem is found, I can then make efforts to roll back the whole class of similar possibly-problematic updates, and then leave remaining geocoding to human beings or other special-purpose bot code written to deal with that particular case. For example, in the case of places in Japan, blind interwiki copying actually has quite high levels of accuracy, perhaps because the only people geocoding Japanese locations are specialists who really care, but bot-driven auto-matching generates very poor and partial data, because of naming conventions and transliteration problems. I thus allow one, but not the other in my bot runs.
This combination of "trust, but verify, then remove or correct similar errors" is quite effective at producing data with an overall accuracy of > 99%, something which we aim to improve in the long run through collaboration with groups like OpenStreetMap. However, there are places where it falls down.
One of the big problems with Canada is the high level of name reuse, and the lack of authoritative public domain or Free data sources other than GNS, which suffers from too little coverage and not enough reduction of ambiguity. In the case of Poland, name reuse was so high that I had to write a special-purpose program to generate data by cross-correlating the locations and areas of first- second- and third-order regions and sub-regions with place names, in order to eliminate ambiguity. Although this took over two weeks to write, debug, and QA, in concert with several other editors, it ended up generating over 10,000 new coordinates for Polish articles, with a very low error rate. I've performed numerous other hand-crafted special-purpose exercises in data fusion and analysis for other specialist article classes, including recently Japanese railway stations, which included some interesting multilingual disambiguation issues.
I wonder if something similar might be possible for Canada? I can't currently see any licensing information for either the BCGNIS or CGNDB -- if it can be shown that they can be used under Wikipedia's licensing terms, I'd be happy to give this a go. -- The Anome (talk) 19:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
The coordinates and I think the basic descriptions, if any, are public domain (e.g. "part of the city of Vancouver, in th New Westminster Land District), only the page layout and things like historical/name-origin are Crown copyright, but even they are often citations from public works, often public-domain works (like Capt. Walbran). Coordinates themselves are not copyrightable. The siteowner of bivouac.com had a parsing method where he could use the Provincial Basemap system somehow to generate displays of it from pages in bivouac. For coordinates we didn't use BCGNIS, though, as they're often rounded (they have a project underway to "hone" them but are short of funding....or I might have a job with them otherwise ;-)), so we used Basemap (in BC) and other sources (for YT, AB etc) to refine the coordinates visually, so their coordinates are often more accurate/precise than in BCGNIS; theoretically parseable also. The coordinates in BCGNIS are the same as those in the Provincial Gazette, which should be easy to parse as it's just a CSV; email me, they sent me a copy (as they will to anyone who asks); should be just a matter of stripping data from certain fields....multiple-entry items could be tagged as such, maybe (e.g. "Bear Lake" - though all those have been done, I think, mostly by myself), with the tag saying "multiple entries exist, please choose from among the following entries"Skookum1 (talk) 20:30, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
BTW there are two parallel systems right now, and as you've seen the older one temporarily hits "Page not found" but does redirect to the proper search window for "old BCGNIS". The new system is BC Names and I should know the link for it by now, but haven't updated my bookmarks since the older one still works; it has nicer graphics etc and in some cases more updated name-origin/history information. The pages themselves are crown copyright, but again, the coordinates, by definition, are not. I can get you verification on that if need be, but bear in mind that "source:BCGNIS" in the coord template means that it's OK, you're only quoting a copyrighted work, not reproducing it entire/unmodified.Skookum1 (talk) 20:47, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Candidates for badness

Some very quick grepping suggests that these are the only entries north of the 49th parallel and to the west of the middle of the Atlantic written in the most recent bot run:

region:US

region:CA

other

Of course, trying to spot numeric ranges with grep patterns is a huge hack, not all of Canada is above the 49th parallel, and this will also get Alaska and some of Greenland, so I wouldn't be surprised that I missed some... -- The Anome (talk) 20:52, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Lessons learned?

Of 26 articles geotagged, 3 were clearly wrong, 1 dubious, and 3 roughly right but in need of expert review. The remaining 19 all seemed OK. 73% good, or, at best, 85% roughly OK, is not a very good hit rate, and significantly worse than I had come to expect. Perhaps this is because this is not a random sample, but a sample containing data that was already known to be dubious? Given the overall data quality goal of > 99%, I'd hope for at least 90%+ good for these interwiki updates, and this hasn't been met here.

Possible useful hypotheses for testing:

More research, as ever, is required. -- The Anome (talk) 23:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced geocoords

Your bot appears to be adding unsourced geocoordinates to a massive number of articles. Interwiki hardly qualifies as a WP:RS. Please stop. Some of these geographical locations are sensitive. They may be located on private property, have restricted access, be dangerous, contain valuable and fragile cultural resources, etc. These sensitive locations are threatened by the publication of their geocoords. This invites the unprepared, the ignorant and possibly the unscrupulous to trespass, vandalise, and damage the location or to injure themselves or others. Besides most of these geocoord edits you are doing fall into the realm of original research which is seriously frowned upon. Please, only add geocoords to articles which are verifiable from reliable sources; and, then, the citation should go with the edit. Adding unsourced, uncited, unverifiable edits to a massive number of articles is cause for concern. Please stop. Thanks. WTucker (talk) 03:02, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure WT is merely being forgetful in failing to point you to his more public rendition of this rather confused complaint, at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Unsourced_geocoords, Anome. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:43, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Ekallatum

Hi. You appear to have inadvertantly added geo coordinates to a place whose location is not known ie. the ancient city of Ekallatum. If you have actually discovered it's location, that would be cool, otherwise, it's probably not a good idea.Ploversegg (talk) 07:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The coordinate was taken from hu:Ekallátum, which I think has it as a hypothetical location. I have filters that try to prevent the auto-geocoding of ancient sites, for exactly this sort of reason, but this time they failed. Thanks for spotting this: I've backed off the change. -- The Anome (talk) 15:09, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination of Gunfire for deletion

The article Gunfire is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gunfire until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Marcus Qwertyus 08:08, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I've closed this AfD as a speedy keep, per the comments there, and then finished the merge proposed by a majority of submitters. -- The Anome (talk) 13:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] coords for light?

The Anomebot2 added coords to Light. This doesn't make sense to me so I removed them. Am I missing something?--SPhilbrickT 21:16, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I glanced upthread after posting. Having added a few hundred geocodes manually, I applaud your efforts. I found the first 50 fun, the next 200 tolerable, then the next batch were tedious, and I've lost my desire to do it manually. If it can be done automatically with an acceptably small error rate, which you seem to be diligently improving, I'm all for it.--SPhilbrickT 21:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words, and in particular, many thanks for geocoding so many pages manually: I know how much work manual geocoding is, and really appreciate your efforts. A few hundred pages may sound like a small number, and the size of the problem overwhelming, but, scaled over hundreds of volunteers, the amount of work generated by a few hundreds of edits per editor is amazing. The reality is that most pages with geocodes have been geocoded by individual contributors -- although the bot has so far geocoded something like 300,000 pages, it is only as good as its data input, and it's unlikely that it will ever be able to geocode things like buildings and monuments.
Also: looking at the edit to Light has given me some more ideas about filtering: I'll take a look at taking the output of the bot's {{coord missing}} generator and using to filter interwiki coordinate copies: this should suppress most of the recent weird edits. Kind regards, -- The Anome (talk) 18:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I wonder, without any specific knowledge, whether there's an alternative systematic approach. My ideal situation would include some organization (National geographic, Google Maps, Bing Maps, AAA, Garmin) with either a long list of locations and geocodes, or plans to create such a list, and a reason why it would be in their best interests for all relevant Wikipedia articles to have geocode information. For example, maybe Garmin would find it a desirable client feature, if you plan a trip from A to B, to tell you about interesting places along the way, and pop up an option to read a Wikipedia article about the place. That might be easier to accomplish if an article had geocodes. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they agreed, and offered to provide us a with a table of Wikipedia articles and their geocodes (or heck, this is the encyclopedia anyone can edit, maybe they could just add the geocode.)--SPhilbrickT 23:16, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I fear they might have intellectual property issues about donating coordinates to Wikipedia. There are certainly a number of iPhone apps that can show you the nearest features on Wikipedia to your current location, "Vicinity" being a good example. -- The Anome (talk) 23:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] NRHP coordinates

Hi, i wonder if u could possibly help me get coordinates for NRHP-listed places. I recall u downloaded the National Register's NRIS database in the past, regarding address-restricted sites. I'm working now with a new version of NRIS and generating draft articles, e.g. as at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Middlesex County, Connecticut/drafts, for editors to use in starting articles. This is similar to what User:Elkman has provided at his off-wiki site, also based on NRIS, but Elkman is not jumping to tell me where he got his coordinates. In the basic NRIS database files, i find UTM coordinates but not regular latitude and longitude ones. I wonder about converting those UTM coordinates, but i am afraid i would introduce errors if i just applied formulae that i find out about by web-searching.

There's been mention of a Google maps layer with better quality NRHP coordinates in it.

Did you, or could you, figure out how to get coordinates for NRHP-listed places? Any advice appreciated. --Doncram (talk) 19:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Sure. I'll take a look a bit later. Did you get your data from the .mdb file mentioned in http://nrhp.focus.nps.gov/natreg/docs/Download.html#spatial ? They also state there that their data uses the NAD27 datum, which can be up to 200m off from the WGS84 coordinate system Wikipedia uses, for a given place in the continental U.S.: http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/nadcon.prl offers a conversion service from NAD27 to NAD83: this claims that NAD83 is in general within 2 meters of agreement with WGS84, which is good enough for most non-cadastral, non-technical purposes, and certainly much better than the accuracy required for this purpose. Of course, you should always spot-check a small sample of your output against ground truth with something like Google Maps to sanity check it before trusting any conversions. -- The Anome (talk) 19:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I was referring to the table named UTM within the NRIS.MDB, which is accessed by "Download all data" option elsewhere on that page. I don't remember if i checked out the Spatial.mdb file, maybe i should have. The UTM table has just 4 fields: REFNUM, UTMZONE, UTMEAST, UTMNRTH and with the refnum i can merge it to other data. It gives multiple points for some REFNUMS though, without identifying which one is a centroid or otherwise best for use.
About the NAD27 issue, i am well aware of that. Elkman's system uses some version of this NRIS coordinates that is indeed off, for many properties, but is what we have used in all the NRHP list-articles and we are continuing to use when creating new individual articles' infoboxes. I don't think all the data is NAd27. All the older listings are, based off of NRHP applications which included old USGS quadrant maps with coords traced out of them. It is probably mostly NAD27 but who knows what for more recent listings. Probably applying a conversion from NAD27 to the current NAD would be better in most cases.
Subsequent to articles being started, editors have manually made corrections. We have about 30,000 articles started, out of 85,000 total. A long ways to go. It seems regrettable that we aren't using the best available coordinates to start with, like those in the Google map layers mentioned on that page, which reflect some effort by the NPS to get better coords. I am not familiar with those. I'll try downloading the SPAtiaL.mdb also. Thanks. --Doncram (talk) 20:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
P.S. I had already downloaded Spatial.mdb. I see it includes a Centroids table, which is what i would want assuming it is all the regular point locations plus centroids for historic district items. It consists of just four fields REFNUM, ZONE, EASTING_CE, and NORTHING_C. I am not sure which version of data Elkman might be using, but i am using neither so far: i am stuck at this point and don't know how to convert, don't have converted hrs/minutes/seconds to use. --Doncram (talk) 20:33, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I've now taken a look at the zipped KML files listed a bit below the spatial.mdb file, labeled "Midwest Region", "Northeast Region" etc. Once these are unzipped, they are pretty much vanilla KML. I've parsed the first one using this regular expression:
"(?ms)<Placemark>.*?<name>(.*?)</name>.*?<coordinates>(.*?),(.*?),(.*?)</coordinates>.*?</Placemark>"
which pulls out name, long/lat and something else (height?) quite simply. The Midwest Region file appears to contain 18244 such placemarks, of which the first five are:
"7th District Police Station" -87.65067106299991 41.8645403460001 0
"Abbott, Robert S., House" -87.6161686759999 41.80996863100011 0
"Adams Building" -87.6299667359999 40.1276626590001 0
"Adams Memorial Library" -88.1065486989999 41.8750130780001 0
"Adams, Mary W., House" -87.78921508799992 42.1872978210001 0
Note that the coordinates in the KML file seem to be longitude, latitude, not the other way around. Since they are KML files, I would like to believe they are already in WGS84: a quick comparison on Google Maps shows the Robert S. Abbott House coordinates to be reasonable (eg. in the right city!), and not too far from the coordinates given in the Wikipedia article:
KML data:        41.80996863100011 -87.6161686759999
Wikipedia data:  41.809989         -87.616136          (via Geohack page)
Difference:      -0.000020*         -0.000033
                 (* approx -2.2 m, using 1 degree latitude ~110km)
-- The Anome (talk) 20:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Maybe the last field, showing 0 in these cases, is the indicator mentioned at the webpage, where 1 would indicate an improved quality location done by contractor TeleAtlas. Unfortunately the NRIS property name in the first field is not a unique identifier. There are 3 "Adams Building" listings in NRIS, for which we have 1 out of 3 articles started in Wikipedia so far:
I could possibly use this set of coordinates to replace other coordinates for future articles in cases where there is a unique match. There is only one "Abbott, Robert S., House", it is located in Chicago if i recall correctly. Robert S. Abbott House already exists as an article. (after ec) It's not quite a fair test on data quality: i think Chicago is ground zero where there is no difference between NAD27 and NAD83; there's more difference at all 4 corners of the continental U.S. :)
I don't know what a KML file is, and I can't read the KML files currently. After i download one and click on it, i am brought to Google Earth to download Google Earth 6, which i don't want to do. And if i did i don't know that i could extract what you have here. --Doncram (talk) 20:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
A KML file is just an XML file: it's verbose, but human-readable: you should be able to open it in a plain-text editor (not a word-processor!). If you have a simple programming language like Python (programming language) available on your machine, you should be able to use Python's regular expression library to parse it quite easily.
By the way, there's lots of other stuff in the placemark records as well, inclding the NPS reference number, state, and county, as HTML in a CDATA section, which I can't currently be bothered to parse.

-- The Anome (talk) 20:59, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

If this helps, a slightly longer regular expression also picks out the NPS reference number, as follows:
"7th District Police Station" 96000515 -87.65067106299991 41.8645403460001 0
"Abbott, Robert S., House" 76000686 -87.6161686759999 41.80996863100011 0
"Adams Building" 00001337 -87.6299667359999 40.1276626590001 0
"Adams Memorial Library" 81000675 -88.1065486989999 41.8750130780001 0
"Adams, Mary W., House" 82002552 -87.78921508799992 42.1872978210001 0
and 00001337 is at 139-141 N. Vermilion St., Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois.
-- The Anome (talk)
Oh, okay, great, the reference number is what i would need to merge with! I'll try harder about finding a way to open the KML file in Wordpad or Notepad text editor. I once used Perl a very little bit on unix machines, don't have anything like that now. Am on Windows XP. It still would only cover some properties though, and specifically not properties listed since 2007 to mid 2010 which are in the current NRIS data. So I would nonetheless still need some way to get regular coordinates out of the UTM coordinates in the spatial mdb.
P.S. For the Robert S. Abbott House, the coords in the article were manually edited by editor User:TonyTheTiger when putting the NRHP infobox in. The Elkman output now gives (and woulda then given):
  | lat_degrees = 41
  | lat_minutes = 48
  | lat_seconds = 36
  | lat_direction = N
  | long_degrees = 87
  | long_minutes = 36
  | long_seconds = 58
but TonyTheTiger knew to refine that using Google Maps satellite view or whatever else. It is actually a high-profile example, of interest to him because it is a National Historic Landmark and a Chicago city landmark, not a run-of-the-mill merely NRHP-listed place. --Doncram (talk) 21:12, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

See User:The Anome/NRIS kml extractor for some sample code in Python that pulls out all the fields in the KML file, including those in the description. As the disclaimer at the top of the code says, use at your own risk: I suggest you only use this as a template for writing your own program: I do not recommend just running or otherwise blindly trusting code you find on random wiki pages, for obvious reasons.

Here's some sample output:

 'OK', '7th District Police Station', '41.8645403460001', '-87.65067106299991', '7th District Police Station', '943--949 W. Maxwell St.', 'Chicago', 'Cook', 'ILLINOIS', '41.86454', '-87.65067', '96000515', '19960502', '', 'point', '0'
 'OK', 'Abbott, Robert S., House', '41.80996863100011', '-87.6161686759999', 'Abbott, Robert S., House', '4742 Martin Luther King, Jr. Dr.', 'Chicago', 'Cook', 'ILLINOIS', '41.80997', '-87.61617', '76000686', '19761208', '', 'point', '0'
 'OK', 'Adams Building', '40.1276626590001', '-87.6299667359999', 'Adams Building', '139-141 N. Vermilion St.', 'Danville', 'Vermilion', 'ILLINOIS', '40.12766', '-87.62997', '00001337', '20001115', '', 'point', '1'
 'OK', 'Adams Memorial Library', '41.8750130780001', '-88.1065486989999', 'Adams Memorial Library', '9th St.', 'Wheaton', 'Du Page', 'ILLINOIS', '41.87501', '-88.10655', '81000675', '19810604', '', 'point', '0'
 'OK', 'Adams, Mary W., House', '42.1872978210001', '-87.78921508799992', 'Adams, Mary W., House', '1923 Lake Ave.', 'Highland Park', 'Lake', 'ILLINOIS', '42.1873', '-87.78922', '82002552', '19820929', 'Highland Park MRA', 'point', '1'

-- The Anome (talk) 21:48, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Now updated to deal with occasional records with broken HTML. -- The Anome (talk) 22:26, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I was able to open the midwest KML file by renaming it to end with .txt instead, then it opens in text editor fine. I could not see how u got all that info, including the refnum, but i searched specifically for one of the refnums u listed above, and then I find it, way way over to the right. I don't think i woulda ever found those were there at all on my own. This is great, i can definitely use this KML data and will proceed to download and clean out the data for all the regions into a nice file that i can use (and i'll offer to share it to Elkman). Thanks!
You're not commenting on the UTM to latitude and longitude conversion, so i am guessing u can't help as easily on that, for records not covered in this KML data. I'll keep trying to figure out some way to convert them. I am way ahead now with having this KML data as good check for whether any UTM converter is working properly. Thanks again! --Doncram (talk) 22:59, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Sounds like both of you are way ahead of me, so I'll just note that I have found some of the NRHP sites to be a bit off – I know I was trying to track one down one location in Bloomfield CT to get a picture, and used the geocode to find it, but it wasn't there. Luckily, I found someone who was familiar with the place, and it was a couple blocks away, not far, but far enough that you couldn't use the original article geocodes to find it. I did correct the values, with some trepidation, but I feel better now. If you two work out some way to get a better list, I'd like to work with Don to find a way to review the existing codes and improve them if possible.--SPhilbrickT 23:33, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Anomebot2: Area Codes

Would it be possible to set the bot to avoid area codes? It's not really possible to have geocoordinates for them. Congressional districts and storms are mostly the same; ships are also pretty tricky to tag unless they're a museum ship or whatnot. I do love the bot, by the way; it leaves me only the interesting articles to geotag. Thanks! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Sure. I thought I was already blacklisting storms -- can you please give me an example of each of these cases, and I'll check them out. -- The Anome (talk) 02:02, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)Here is one Area codes 860 and 959. I had mentioned a similar article back in May but it may have been missed because I included it in an old comment.  7  02:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I am not sure I understand the logic here. If the Atlantic Ocean can have geocoordinates, why can't congressional districts, telephone area codes, and ancient lakes? It's not like the case with storms because those other things have definite agreed upon physical locations.--—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 02:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
With the Atlantic, the coordinates make it meaningful - any mapping site will show the ocean. A map is meaningful for congressional districts, area codes, and lakes; geocoordinates that point to a random location inside such things which are invisible on mass maps like Google Maps are not useful for those cases. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I still do not understand the logic of your point. What differentiates a "random point" in the Atlantic Ocean from one in Area code 203 or Connecticut for that matter? If it's a scaling issue, that's why there's a parameter for that in the template. Our mission isn't to be a supplier of content to Google Maps, so a coordinate's lack of usefulness in their Wikipedia layer hardly seems relevent to me. --—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:17, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Putting a coord on Atlantic Ocean is not especially useful, but its at the same time at least it is not confusing because the boundaries are clearly visible on map or satellite which identify item. However, area codes don't follow such strict boundries. Within CT there 203, 457, and 860. There are no clear maps which would define where one starts and one ends because after CT expanded from just 203 people who needed new phone numbers got new codes. I know people with one house with two lines, both of which have different area codes indicating the age at which they got the numbers, not the geographical location. Lastly, and this is a stretch (I agree), but VOIP has essentially made area codes irrelevant. My number follows me around the world with Vonage and Skype. Putting a coordinate on an article like this implies a false precision, regardless of how far out the map layer is zoomed.  7  03:27, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
The fact that I've retained the 860 phone number on my cellphone since I've moved to NYC does not change the fact that, for the time being at least, that number traces back to a specific region of Connecticut. Area code borders are very distinct, just ask the residents of Marble Hill, Manhattan about having to switch their area code from 212 to 718 despite the neighborhood being politically part of Manhattan, just not physically. Yes the borders of congressional districts and area codes are changed sometimes, but the same can be said for parks, towns, cities, and nations! The point of the coord template is so that users can click it and get an idea of where in the world something is. Just because you know generally where the 860 area code is doesn't mean someone from California or Sri Lanka does.--—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
It appears that we disagree. While there is specific mention of states and waterbodies, there is no mention of area codes in WP:COORD. Suggest we move further discussion to the project talk page. Regards,  7  04:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Done. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#What articles should have coordinates? --—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 04:27, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Adding of geodata

Regarding this edit [16] where did you get the co-ordinates from and what is it supposed to be pointing to. Having checked Bing and Google the co-ordinates do not lead to a football stadium. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 14:37, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I got it from the Wikipedia-World databased generated by the geographic coordinates wikiproject on the German-language Wikipedia. Unfortunately, this does not seem to tie up with anything reasonable in this case. I'll investigate. -- The Anome (talk) 18:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for response, I note you'll investigate. However, we don't normally copy data across from other-language wikis do we, as they have different views on notability, inclusion etc and anything being added to the English wiki should be sourced outright? To be honest for an article on a tournament I would not normally expect to have a co-ordinate as they are played at multiple venues, although in this article there is an unsourced comment saying that the matches were held at the same ground but it would still seem consistent to not have a co-ord. Eldumpo (talk) 19:02, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, have you had chance to look into this any further. Eldumpo (talk) 12:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Lower White River Wilderness geodata

Hello, thanks for adding geodata for Lower White River Wilderness on January 18th. But I`m kind of new to Wikipedia, so I don`t understand what you did exactly. I`m guessing you added the location of Lower White River Wilderness in the world? Please explain if I`m right or wrong about this. MetaCow (talk) 23:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination for deletion of Template:VIPtemplate

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:VIPtemplate has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Add coords to infobox

You are doing a great job with your bot.No doubt. I have been spending (wasting?) time reducing the backlog on page requesting coordinates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_coordinates). More specifically on lake pages . 30% of the articles have already their coordinates but not in the infobox, leading to false positives.

Would it be possible to move coordinates directly to infobox when available (with (display=it) as parameter)? If it is too "touchy" restricting the bot to pages from Canada, Finland, Estonia would already be a big help as most of the pages are stub pages (1 description line + 1 infobox). Thank you --Alberto Fernandez Fernandez (talk) 09:26, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination for deletion of Template:Categorybrowsebar

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Categorybrowsebar has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. WOSlinker (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Bondage rope harness

I noticed you placed a merge template on this article, but you didn't say why. I think it ought to be left alone. I oppose merging to rope bondage because it's mostly a Japanese bondage technique, but since it's not strictly so, I think it's best to leave it alone. If you still feel it's worth merging, would you take a few minutes to start the discussion? --Pnm (talk) 02:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Requested photo for Mecklenburgh Square

You put a Requested Photo tag on Mecklenburgh Square. I took a photo today and put it up on Commons (commons:File:Mecklenburgh_Square.jpeg) and have added it to the article. I've removed the template from the talk page. Enjoy! –—Tom Morris (talk) 21:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! That's really cool! -- The Anome (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] source code

Hi, did you released the bot's source code? I want to develop the same with some changes such as checking coord with google and interwiki after that tag it inside boxes. i appreciated if you release the bot's code.Reza1615 (talk) 15:19, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Blow-in card

Hello, I'm proposing to redirect Blow-in card to Insert (print advertising): your comments are welcome at Talk:Blow-in card. Thanks, Borkificator (talk) 12:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] RE: 2011 Egyptian protests

I completely agree with you. The discussing has started on the 28th of Jan. with no result and kept popping up and two or three user will discuss it and then another three will discuss in a new section with no result. It was going nowhere. I asking admins to step in otherwise, this will never end. We need an admin right now. If you know one please, speak to them. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 17:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm an admin. Although I'm in favour of the move, it would be inappropriate for me to move the article just because I think it's a good idea -- we need to let the formal renaming process continue, and see what comes of that. In order to do that, we need to keep the discussion all in one place on the article's talk page, and not refactor it anywhere else. -- The Anome (talk) 17:52, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] OS grid ref -> lat/long

I understand that you have a bot that finds OS grid refs and adds lat/long. Be aware that I have done long-overdue edits (both almost trivial) to template:OS coord to allow spaces in grid refs and to make them non-breaking spaces when displayed. And I have already added spaces to grid refs in many articles. I hope this does not mess up your bot too much.

The program called by OS_coord, coor_g.php is also overdue for overhaul. Would it be possible for me to see the source code of your bot? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:39, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Movile Cave lat/lon

I'm skeptical of User:The Anomebot2's recent addition of a lat/lon to Movile Cave. Google Maps places that lat/lon inside the Black Sea. The article states that it is "a few kilometers from the Black Sea coast." I don't have any better data, just wanted to call this out as suspicious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dantheox (talk • contribs)

Agreed. I've removed the coordinates, which were copied from the de: article. -- The Anome (talk) 15:34, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Ignore coordinates at origin point

I suspect there is a little bug in User:The Anomebot2. It assigned 0,0 coordinates (origin point) to at least 3 articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lyutoga_River&action=historysubmit&diff=391382788&oldid=278460123
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H%C3%A2ncu_monastery&action=historysubmit&diff=391339539&oldid=340023198
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C%C4%83priana_monastery&action=historysubmit&diff=391346004&oldid=339980960

Your code should discard 0,0 coordinates (consider them suspicious and not use them). Bonzon (talk) 15:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

I do (or try to). These weren't recognized as such because they were in scientific notation, and also not exactly at zero-zero. As far as I can see, these were the only three tags added by my bot which match the regexp "[0-9][Ee]-", so that should have got them all. I'll add some more rules to exclude this type of tag in future -- we shouldn't be using scientific notation in coordinates at all. -- The Anome (talk) 11:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Done. -- The Anome (talk) 12:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Geostubs

Hi. I've resumed generating lots of new stubs as I think wikipedia as a resource should be covering very populated place in the world and shouldn't be missing tens of thousands of places. Can you use your bot to dd the coordinates? The Afghan village coordinates are already present on wikipedia in the missing articles pages..♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

A reply please?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:34, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Can you give me some links to the missing articles pages containing these coordinates? Have you spot-checked any of them for accuracy? If so, and if I can easily data-mine the coordinates from those pages, I'd be happy to put them into the articles using my bot. -- The Anome (talk) 12:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi. See the pages here I will be creating the Afghanistan and Bangladesh places from this missing article bank which lists all the coordinates. I did check out a few of the villages on google maps and all I looked at were legitimate.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:57, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I'll do Afghanistan and Bangladesh. Burma I will be starting too although that doesn't have any lists on here but should have entries in the geonames database..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:02, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I've just double-checked the lists, and found a fair degree of name duplication, which suggests that there are still disambiguation problems -- I've now gone over the lists again, and only generated entries for those articles with only one occurrence in those lists. I've now reverted the edits already made to the articles with questionable coordinates, and will set the bot off again in a moment. -- The Anome (talk) 13:09, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

OK. I also created quite a lot of villages of places in Saudi Arabia, Oman and Kazakhstan not too long ago which need coordinates...♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

It occurred to me. Can you use a bot to download lists of settlements or something for say a country like Iran onto wikipedia into the workspace?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:25, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Mmm I dunno, there's a LOT of cleanup work needed for Pakistan and India, I'm not sure of how much use these stubs would be in the near future... I might feel like doing some more next week..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:37, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Will resume with Afghanistan this week, if not later tonight...♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:29, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! -- The Anome (talk) 01:20, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Resumed on them today and ended up having Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents opened about me so now I've stopped. I had intended to finish the rest of them today too.. Care to comment?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination of David Bomberg House for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article David Bomberg House is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Bomberg House until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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[edit] Anomebot blacklist

Just a few pages for you to tell Anomebot not to edit, if you would:

Thanks once again; the bot always keeps me busy with articles to geocoordinate. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:32, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! -- The Anome (talk) 01:20, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Dates in infoboxes

Any chance you might have time to set your bot to this date-template task, please? appeals on BOTREQ have proved fruitless. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:25, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Nigeria coords

Hello, the bot has a miserable success rate for coords of towns, LGAs in Nigeria recently; not surprising as there are numerous names corresponding to dozens of places. I will be contributing (accurate) coords, pushpin maps for all the LGAs I haven't already done, and many towns, shortly, so would suggest you shut down the bot in this area for a bit. Regards Crusoe8181 (talk) 09:33, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I've now stopped the auto-generation of locations for Nigeria place articles, and rolled back all such geotags recently added by the bot that have not subsequently been altered by other editors. -- The Anome (talk) 06:11, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Coord missing for "Don't touch my junk"?

Anome bot added a coord missing tag to Don't touch my junk, which makes little sense. [17] Jason Quinn (talk) 14:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting it and fixing it. The simple-minded bot thought it was an airport, because it was listed under Category:Airports in the United States without containing any features that would have hit the blacklist it uses to try to detect non-place articles. Althogh the bot should not attempt to add the tag again, I've re-categorised the article under Category:Aviation in the United States, which is I think in any case a clearer and more appropriate category for this article. -- The Anome (talk) 06:09, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Bad coordinates for Smriječje

Hello! It looks like your bot's source for coordinates for Smriječje claims that the village is floating in the ocean near the Prime Meridian and the Equator. And Google Maps is faithfully rendering it out there. :-) I have removed this assertion from the English Wikipedia, but the French Wikipedia seems to be taking its lat / lon info from somewhere other than the article itself -- any thoughts on how to fix this? —Hobart (talk) 23:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that: zero-zero coordinates are a real pain to remove, as I'm constantly surprised by how many variants there can be for expressing them (for example, the recent ones that used scientific notation). I'll take a look to see if I can find any similar ones that slipped through. -- The Anome (talk) 09:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
After taking a quick look, the fr: article template (from which the original coordinates were scraped) seems to default to a weird 0.01 degrees when latitude or longitude is missing. This is truly weird. I've now fixed both articles by hand, using coordinates from the NGA GNS database. -- The Anome (talk) 09:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
And, after reviewing my logs, there were 67 similar cases of 00 00 06 N 00 00 06 E coordinates copied from frwiki by my bot. I'll see what I can do to fix these. -- The Anome (talk) 09:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
YesY Done I've now wound all of these back to {{coord missing}} tags, with the exception of Ljenobud, which I've geocoded. -- The Anome (talk) 10:38, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
A bit more manual log-grepping revealed a dozen or so more similar errors: however, all of these had already been fixed, by myself or others. -- The Anome (talk) 11:01, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Anome.

Thanks for the message. My intention was for the discussion to happen at the Brogue shoe discussion page. I'm moving your comment there. Thanks. Ch Th Jo (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AN#Systematic Removal of Links to One Site

A thread has been started about the mass removal of Wisegeeks links which you are involved with. Buttercrumbs (talk) 07:29, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

I think you are OK over this one, however I do have a few pieces of advice to go forward:
  • For processes sake open a thread on RS/N to discuss the reliability of the source and get wider commentary on the removal
  • When you continue to remove links (as mentioned on AN/I) list a specific reason why each is removed (i.e. WP:EL failure, or supporting POV text etc etc.) because that means it is easier to check on the removals
  • Check for material that the site is being used to support; remove obvious problem text and for the rest drop a {{cn}} tag.
That way the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed :) --Errant (chat!) 15:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Chris TEK O'Ryan deletion

Hello, I'm not a great wikipedia-er so excuse me if I'm writing this in the wrong place. I believe my article on Chris 'TEK' O'Ryan was deleted unfairly. He is a Grammy-Award winning sound engineer (I have seen the trophy) and this can be verified by The Recording Academy. As he was not the artist but the recording engineer there was little or no press about it. He is an industry leader, at the top level of his field and his name is on millions of platinum selling records around the world. He is endorsed by major music software companies such as Waves and Melodyne (see interviews). He was also shown on television recently working in the studio with the top 12 contestants on this years American Idol. I don't understand how he is not worthy of an article.BrittyGirl (talk) 05:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

If you'd like the article to be restored, see Wikipedia:Deletion review for how to get an article deletion reviewed, and potentially reversed. -- The Anome (talk) 22:03, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Afghanistan

Hi. I have a download request. Would it be possible for you to access the PDF/adobe you find at the top of google searching OCHA Afghanistan Settlements Index and download it onto wikipedia but in a fashion that puts the districts /and or provinces in alpha order so we effectively we have a list of villages under each district/province? Is just the vast majority of articles don't know what district it is and the old geonames out of date at times asi found out that some in Sar -i- Pol province used to be in Jowzjan province. If so I can use that as a guide to create them.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm on it. -- The Anome (talk) 11:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, see User:The Anome/Villages in Afghanistan index. Please don't use them yet until I've had a chance to check them with you and fix any errors.
These pages try as far as possible to disambiguate village names down to the province/district level, and omit any entries for villages that have the same name in a single district and therefore cannot be disambiguated. Note that the transliterations in the names do not line up 100% with those used by Wikipedia as standard: if you can identify the mappings that are incorrect, I can go through the list automatically correcting them to Wikipedia standard usage. The same goes for disambiguation formats: if there is a better format, please let me know, and I will regenerate the pages appropriately. -- The Anome (talk) 13:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Updated to fix some obvious transliteration errors: note that things still need further checking. -- The Anome (talk) 13:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, as I thought... I think the transliterations should be UN standard. Can you standardise them? I am aware some of them may be horrifically bad transliterations or way off more general names.. They all need standardising and dabbing, then the district lists can be copied into nav templates and the articles on the districts and I'll start them.. The dabbing convention is here. Don't worry though if that's how you've done it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the information about the dab convention -- I've seen it done both ways, and wasn't sure which was standard. Presumably Dasht, Kuran Wa Munjan District, Badakhshan would be the format for an article that needs disambiguation down to the district level? -- The Anome (talk) 11:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Dasht, Kuran Wa Munjan, usually.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

OK -- I'll tweak my code to try it that way, too, but first, I'll need to check if there are any two villages with the same name and district name in different provinces: if so, they will have to have the full three-level disambiguation. -- The Anome (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
OK, I've regenerated the lists -- the first preference is the bare name, if unambiguous, second preference is "name, province" if unambiguous, third choice is "name, district" if unambiguous, and finally, only where necessary, "name, district, province". I found a few duplicates remaining in the list that could not even be disambiguated by that: I have removed them from the output for the time being.
I think it's now as finished as it can get without proper manual work to check up geographic details. Would you like to take one more quick look to double-check? -- The Anome (talk) 17:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks fine, go ahead.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:51, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geographic.org. Would it be possible for your bot to use the UN list you've created to correct the province and add district details? It would be a shame to delete all of the articles when we know they exist. If you could find a way to use a bot to correct them all this at least would be a start..♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:20, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Any plan of action yet?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm tied up with off-wiki issues at the moment. I'll try to make some progress on this tomorrow. -- The Anome (talk) 12:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

That would be the best think. Honestly its not that big of a loss, I generated them at the rate of 5 per minute so thats about 6 hours work, hours I'd rather not have wasted most certainly, but sometimes things like this happen with building an encyclopedia. I think with Afghanistan it was probably easier to start again from scratch anyway, with new district templates and create the missing ones at the same time.. Make a bot proposal if you like... ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:53, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

No idea I'm afraid.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:39, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Any developments?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:22, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Look, if you don't want to do it just say so. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree File:A4540 small tag.jpg

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[edit] Coord missing

Hi Anome, I'm still learning the ropes here so I was hoping you could help me understand why a painting should provide geographic coordinate info - or maybe just that it should be included in some sort of Netherlands category. You added to Still Life with Straw Hat and I'm just trying to figure out: what should be done for this painting and well as other articles I'm writing about paintings. Thanks so much!!!--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

{{coord missing}} is placed on articles based on their categorisation; this painting was categorised as Category:National museums of the Netherlands which effectively makes the claim that it is a bricks & mortar construction capable of having coordinates ascribed to it. I've removed the poor category and the {{coord missing}}. --Tagishsimon (talk) 07:01, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah, thanks! That makes sense. It was one of the first articles I started on my one and I wasn't too clued into Categories then (it's still a work in progress, but definitely better). Thanks for fixing it!--CaroleHenson (talk) 07:28, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Clackamas Wilderness

Thank you for adding the geodata with the coord missing to the article. Appreciate it. MetaCow (talk) 01:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] May 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States

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[edit] Mistaken block

Hi, The Anome, sorry to bother you about something that happened almost a year ago, but Exxolon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) is attempting to use the fact that I've "gotten myself blocked ELEVEN TIMES" in a rather tangential context; however, this figure of 11 includes your mistaken block of me in July 2010, as well as one other completely mistaken block, plus nine others which all resulted in unblock. Anyway, I wonder if you wouldn't mind commenting either on his talkpage or in the thread concerned to confirm the total irrelvance of your accidental 'incident' to my track record? Thanks. ╟─TreasuryTag►hemicycle─╢ 14:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

YesY Done -- The Anome (talk) 10:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Great, thanks. ╟─TreasuryTag►duumvirate─╢ 10:31, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of Black Poppy

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long unreferenced article about non-notable advocacy magazine

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[edit] Free images for bondage hood

Can you find a free image of an open-faced bondage hood and/or a ponytail hood, because I can't find one. I wasn't using the article as a "coat rack" for just any old pictures. My two picture selections, which you deleted, specifically illustrate the variety of apparel being described in the article. I also cut down on the "original research" and reorganized the text some, so it should be OK now. Word Sliver (talk) 05:09, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons has a bunch of suitably free images of other sorts of bondage hoods -- see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bondage_hoods and its subcategories -- but I don't think these are what you want. A quick use of other tools to find suitable open-licensed images comes up with nothing. Have you considered making your own image, and uploading it yourself? Cameras are cheap, and all you need is a hood, a broad-minded friend (or a camera with a time-delay and willingness to appear yourself in Wikipedia), and the willingness to go through the necessary processes, including paying attention to any legal issues that may exist. -- The Anome (talk) 14:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Coord missing

Hi, on 18 September 2009, The Anemobot has tagged the article Kurtoğlu Hızır Reis coord missing. Well this article is about a person. How can a person have a geographical coordinate ? Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

It's a mistake. I've added some categories that would have made the bot recognise it as a person article, but the bot should in any case, having logged itself as having changed the article already, not try to revisit the article in future. -- The Anome (talk) 01:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Similar today: Dresdner Kreuzchor, it's a choir travelling in the world. If it has to have coords - which I don't think - take those of Kreuzkirche. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Fixed by hand. The bot shouldn't try to code it again. -- The Anome (talk) 13:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] File:Usenet cites vs article count dec 2003.png needs authorship information.

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If you created this media yourself, please consider explicitly including your user name, for which:{{subst:usernameexpand|The Anome}} will produce an appropriate expansion,

or the {{own}} template..

If you have any questions please see Help:Image page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinates for miniature railways

I've just found an article, Echills Wood Railway, in Category:British miniature railways and Category:7¼ inch gauge railways, with no coordinates and no {{Coord missing}} template. More work for your bot? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I've added "miniature railways" to my list of types of structures: they will be detected in future bot runs. -- The Anome (talk) 13:57, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you, for your comments regarding the quality of my improvements to the article Santorum (neologism). Much appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 22:01, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Artsakh: A Photographic Journey

Hello, you started "We Are Our Mountains", of which this is the most recent version by you before anybody else stepped in. One footnote reads:

Artsakh: A Photographic Journey by Hrair Khatcherian, p.49. ISBN 0-9697620-0-7

There are plenty of alternative sources for the assertion being made here; the article doesn't have to cite this particular book. But it did, and it still does, and more importantly other articles cite it for other assertions. If we click on the ISBN link given here and elsewhere, we're informed that the ISBN is faulty. Worldcat has this item, a trilingual US publication (sans ISBN) that I imagine is the one that you had in mind. But is it? -- Hoary (talk) 02:03, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

I replied to you, here diff. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 21:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Coords for railway lines

Hi, re this and similar edits: railway lines tend to be long and thin, and some (such as this one) are far from straight. How would I choose suitable coordinates - one end (which one), the mid-point, or the centre of gravity of the polygon enclosed by the railway line and a chord connecting origin with terminus? --Redrose64 (talk) 13:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd suggest a representative point somewhere in the middle that actually lies on the line itself. -- The Anome (talk) 13:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
A middle point is not always appropriate, and almost never representative. For example, the geodata for Dovey Junction as added for the Cambrian Line, were several major towns along the route would be more appropriate. Quite a few railway line articles already include a table of grid references of major calling points, and most, if not all, stations linked from the article include geodata. --Stewart (talk | edits) 17:53, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion ongoing about this issue at WT:UKRAIL#Railway line coordinates. Please could you hold off adding any more templates to UK railway line articles until this has been resolved. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 12:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I've now removed all the UK entries containing the word "Line" from the bot's queue. I'll also modify the script that generated this list to block all entries with the word "Line" in, regardless of country, for future runs. Please let me know if you see any more problematic entries.
If you get a resolution for this issue, I'll be happy to re-enable them: just let me know. -- The Anome (talk) 12:13, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
If your script is case sensitive, then could you treat "line" the same as "Line" please (although most are capitalised not all are, e.g. Piccadilly line). Thank you for the quick response. Thryduulf (talk) 14:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Done. -- The Anome (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Merge discussion for Civil Parish of Winterbourne

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[edit] Categories on redirects

Hi, re this edit - the categories were intentional. It's a {{R with possibilities}}, because Swanley Junction was not the same as Swanley (they were 420 m apart), so to put these four cats on Swanley railway station would be incorrect. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:41, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Gang Stalking rears its ugly head, request expert intervention

Haven't you been involved with related controversies before? Thought I'd give you a heads up.

Check out David_Lawson_(author).

This article has serious problems.

1. The areyoutargeted link is to a personal site.[18]

2. Nevertheless the facts on the linked article[19] check out. There's no evidence the publisher of the books mentioned in this article ever existed as an independent entity. There is evidence the publisher of the books is none other than the author, and that evidence comes from a reliable source, even if that source is cited by a personal site.

3. There is no evidence of notability in this article. David Lawson may be notable but that's not evident in the article.

4. The accusations and counter-accusations of "agents" out to mislead people, and the nature of the claims, make this article look like a crackpot magnet.

5. This article seems like a coat rack for claims that have been deleted before. [20] [21], coming from a single-purpose account.

I think this article is a good candidate for deletion. Kontrol3140 (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

In hand at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Lawson (author) --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Sock investigation notice

You were previously involved in blocking one of the related socks; please see - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Prince-au-Léogâne. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 02:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] June 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States

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[edit] Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Prince-au-Léogâne

Hello. I noticed that you filed a fresh case for this user, but placed it in the archives. I've properly filed the case at the link listed above, but require some comments by you as to the reasons for filing a case, due to both accounts being blocked. Thanks. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 11:44, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] US National Archives collaboration

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There are all sorts of tasks available for any type of editor, whether you're a writer, organizer, gnome, coder, or image guru. The National Archives is making its resources available to Wikipedia, so help us forge this important relationship! Please sign up and introduce yourself. Dominic·t 15:22, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] The User DEMSAGROUPPR

As your notice I will use my name as a USER. But couldnt find a way to change the username instead I use my personal USername as Atifunaldi. So we can retire the DEMSAGROUPPR user. But unfortunately I couldnt how to retire a user. Can you please help me for that... Regards

[edit] The User DEMSAGROUPPR

As your notice I will use my name as a USER. But couldnt find a way to change the username instead I use my personal USername as Atifunaldi. So we can retire the DEMSAGROUPPR user. But unfortunately I couldnt how to retire a user. Can you please help me for that... Regards - 213.74.124.18 (talk) 11:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC)Atifunaldi

[edit] Coordinates for a transit-system?

Regarding this edit, what does "coordinates" mean in respect to a miles-long subway line? DMacks (talk) 19:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

See #Coords for railway lines above, also the related WT:UKRAIL#Railway line coordinates. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] FOIA material, Stalking article, Source cite

Hi, Thanks for requesting a more complete citation. Per your request, "original source" information has been added. Please advise. Thank you. Elizabeth Blandra (talk) 13:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 09:43, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Blair Peach

I've reverted this edit of yours. It is true that people don't in general have coordinates, BP is notably mainly for having been killed by the police on a certain Southall street corner. I think readers will tend to grok the meaning of the coords. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:47, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Done. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:59, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Ships

I see that you have added coord missing to all (or is it all?) ships. By their nature they move about. Although some have notable locations such as a rescue and some sink. But just what coord do you have in mind? - Lugnad (talk) 22:09, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

The place of the sinking or rescue. I've tried only to add ships that were the subject of such events. If I've tagged any significant number of ships which weren't, please let me know, and I'll try to do another bot run to untag those. Otherwise, if they are few and far between, I suggest you just untag them when you see them. -- The Anome (talk) 12:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
OK Lugnad (talk) 15:34, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] A Suggestion?

While your comments on the "vulgar" issue ARE relevant to the "Weasel Word" discussion, they are probably (IMHO) MORE relevant to the overriding vulgar "content" issue which remains unresolved. May I suggest that you refactor your comments to that section so that 1. the section doesn't get archived prior to resolution (I may do that myself with the posing of a WP:UNDUE question) 2. It may reignite discussion on that subject leading to resolution? Your consideration is appreciated. JakeInJoisey (talk) 13:30, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] New articles and socks from User:Prince-au-Léogâne

I recall that you were working on a new edit filter related to this blocked user's frequent article creation on the same subject (himself). I thought I would bring to your attention a new article and a few new socks from the last few days (a new SPI has been opened):

Hope that helps. Singularity42 (talk) 11:49, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. That certainly seems to have triggered my filter: I've now activated it to block edits matching its pattern. -- The Anome (talk) 19:36, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Pulvulveriser

D'oh. I'd noticed the vulva, so to speak, but missed the pulveriser. Tonywalton Talk 16:20, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

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