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U.S. Big Three automakers remain independent companies by June 30, 2009?

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Betting closes on Jun 29 2009
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There's speculation that Ford Motor will have to join the federal aid bailout club due to worsening sales projections for 2009. Congress has already approved $17.4 billion in federal aid for General Motors and Chrysler, who both may be forced to ask for more money this year. 

Chrysler appears to be the most in need of a handout. Chrysler chief executive Robert Nardelli has acknowledged that the company's cash reserves are shrinking and that the company won't expect a rebound in Q1 2009.

GM says the $13.4 billion in federal aid it's getting will keep the company afloat through the end of March. GM, like Chrysler, is expected to show a turnaround plan by Feb. 17. Both companies must show that their game plan is working by March 31, or risk giving the loans back.

Prediction: Chrysler, GM, and Ford will remain as independent companies by the end of June. A company is no longer considered independent should any of three announce an acquisition.

Update: To clear up some confusion, any of the big 3 automakers loses its claim to "independence," or ability to run one's own operations, if the company announces an acquisition or files for bankruptucy. An automaker will lose its independent status should another company take a major stake (51% or more). In the case of Chrysler, a privately-held company split between Cereberus Capital Manager (80.1%) and Daimler AG (19.1%), Fiat's stake would not only have to increase by at least 51% but also Fiat must announce it's taking over control of Chrysler's operations. 

Image: AP Photo/Paul Sancya 

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@Yi-Wyn ... can you clarify how the following events would fare against this prediction?
1) What if additional federal aid result in equity exchange to the government?
2) What if GM and Chrysler merge? See http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/17/chrysler-gm-reopen-merger-tal...
3) What if GM sells of Volvo or Saab? See http://uk.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUKTRE50B0A920090112


Hey David, if the govt. takes a stake, the company still remains independent. If GM and Chrysler merge or announce a merger, Chrysler ceases to be an independent entity and therefore this prediction would not come true. If GM sells off parts of its company, it still remains an independent company. Hope that helps.


Great. Thanks.


BREAKING: Chrysler is no longer is independent as it gives up an initial stake of 35% (with potential increase to 55%) to Italy Fiat in an agreement of a global alliance.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28747620/


Hi David, Chrysler still remains independent. For now. Fiat has taken a minor stake in the company. Should Fiat announce it will increase its share to 55%, then Chrysler is giving up the major portion of its company and would then be judged not independent.


@Yi-Wyn, if this is the case, I suggest clarification on the prediction verbiage/criteria (to the extent related to exchange of majority equity stake). The use of "independent company" might be misleading. The term is typically used to describe a privately owned company. None of the 3 US automakers are privately owned company.

In my opinion, Chrysler can no longer make all independent decisions on production/operation as it now relies on production resource sharing with Fiat to help realize a $3-4B cost savings.

BTW, please also re-enable the Judge Early option.


GM and Chrysler have until March 31 to get approval from the federal government that they're on the right track to survival.


GM/Chrysler merger talks set aside. So, bankruptcy may be the only event that would render this prediction with unfavorable judgment. GM has hinted on potential bankruptcy if unable to effect a huge restructuring of the business.


@TIS, Managed bankruptcy = loss of independence?


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