my thoughts exactly :DDD

ive never played elder scrolls but isnt it some supernatural thing ? some fantasy thing?
and isnt wolfenstein an supernatural game with nazi's?

That idea isn't too far fetched :p wolfenstein is almost there already

Tele is joking and the elder scrolls are rpg's in the past with fantasy in it.

i know :p

was just saying that its more likely to happen than you think

the worst thing that can happen from this is a 60 odd level WoW-style wolfenstein where its an eternal XP save across all servers and you have to pay monthly.

probably not for ET though :< but maybe for Wolfenstein :)))

if it continues like that we'll have activision/blizzard and EA left in a few years. casual games all the way, yeah! however, how can someone not love bethesda? they'll just ship 1 multiplayer map with the retail version of wolfenstein and sell the others als DLC. that's going to be awesome!

Yeah except Wolfenstein is being published by Activision.

Uh, if I recall correctly id was trying to get bought in by Activision back then, but not all of id Software's owners agreed to it, which led to Adrian Carmack quitting the company:

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Adrian Carmack left id Software in 2005. At the time the press was told he felt he had done all he could do in the gaming field and was planning to pursue his passions of art. However, in September 2005, the Wall Street Journal revealed he was taking his former business partners to court claiming he was effectively fired by them in an attempt to force him to sell his 41% stake in the company for $11 million under the terms of a contract he wants the court to nullify. $11 million is thought to be a fraction of the true value of his stake, which is thought to be closer to $43 million after the company received a $105 million bid from Activision in 2004.

I stand corrected!

According to id, this move should give them more indepedence, at least in the creative department:

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"We're not going to change the kinds of games we make…. It allows us to accelerate the growth of our internal studios, so we can focus on making all of our internal games as opposed to working with external partners where there has been a step down in quality… There will be more, better games from id. So if you're a fan of the company, then it is all upside and all things to look forward to." Todd Hollenshead

Might just be propaganda af course :)

more quakecon prizemoney!

Everything id owns is now owned by ZeniMax, games, licenses, human resources, all the extra games they will be able to produce will be fully owned by ZeniMax. I mean, even id's independence itself is owned by ZeniMax :P

That doesn't default to ZeniMax interfering :)

no true, but at the end they can still say 'its sucks, go fix something else' right??

and first ID were on their own, how can they be more independent with, than without zenimax? :/

I've read that they wanted to make more title and to be free. For now they don't have to defend all their project to have money for publishing their game. As we can see RtCW is from 2k1 and another single player chapter is only coming now..

The future will tell us if it's a good news or not.

Good for the id owners at least, they just made a lot of money :)

buying something during financial crisis? Rather seems like a cheap offer before knock out to me

if the offer was really cheap id would have just sold their IP's instead, I bet a company like Activision would pay millions to be able to be the full owner of franchises like Wolfenstein, Doom and Quake.

there's no oldschool left, it's all about new school, so tell me some successful titles released, I only remember quake4 many said it's shit (though i liked it), quakewars was related to id aswell and didn't bring in much money did it?

Doom 3 was id's latest big inhouse title and was sold over 3.5 million times

In 2004 Activision actually bid 90 million dollars for the exclusive rights to the Quake, Doom and Wolfenstein franchies, true, that is five years ago, but even if the franchises would be sold for just a quarter of that amount, it would still be a lot of money.

I don't think ET:QW infected the worth of the Quake IP, considering it was both highly rated and had okayish sales numbers

I dont disagree about the great names, but looking at their announcement before quakelive, they said they won't release another quake if it isnt any success, and success = sponsors for this game.

After doom was released, same for quake, what did you hear about their multiplayer performance and fans? I don't remember much positive :(

id has become the same as blizzard, from their top support for competitive games, they were focusing cashual games and struggled with patch releases for wc3 in the past years. the name is falling down and with selling it, it doesn't look good for the competitive gaming's future :(

"They are triple A, top-of-the-line in what they do in the RPGs. And they have no overlap with all the things we do in the FPSes."

So I guess we will get screwed after all :l
even if it wasnt going to look like RtCW in the first place.

You just wasted your money. You should have bought Endrant Studios :D