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Posted by mosby on Saturday 9th May 2009, 19:21 GMT |
Article: ET, XF
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Upon strolling through my old Crossfire work I encountered an article that I made around June 2007. It contained a medal count of EuroCup medals per country. I remembered getting some positive comments on the initiative and the comments confirmed that.
Now almost two years later I decided to make another medal count. This time not per country, but per player. Just to see who is the most successful player of the past two years as an addition on my article of June 2007.
I chose to count all gold, silver and bronze medals won in the Clanbase Eurocup or at a Crossfire LAN event between June 2007 and now. Starting with Eurocup XV and of course ending at the Crossfire Challenge 6.
I'm still working on three complete lists of the medal count per player, per team and per country. But I already finished the Top 10 so you can have a look at the 10 (actually 11) most successful players of the last 2 years.
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 Mierlo9
on 09/05/09, 19:47:42 GMT  |
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there's something wrong at the top10 players page;p
its says mAus won Eurocup 15 with TLR whilst winghaven became third at Eurocup 15 with TLR
great work tho;p
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 onionknight
on 09/05/09, 21:22:29 GMT |
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In my opinion you should do it like this:
[1st] 4 points
[2nd] 2 points
[3rd] 1 point
Cause otherwise, if a guy has 4 gold pocals and no silvers/bronze, and second has only 3 golds but craploads of silver/bronze, the first guy will rank higher.
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 mosby
on 09/05/09, 21:25:32 GMT |
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i did that on the previous medal count but then someone pointed out that it's normally done like this and it actually is. take a look at the olympic medal count for example.
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 ag0n
on 09/05/09, 21:53:54 GMT |
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He means only from 2007 till nowadays... Qcon was before 2007 if im correct... Otherwise night would be the winner, ofc
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ag0n
on 09/05/09, 22:18:11 GMT |
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ye, but the text kinda explain the rest... but i agree, plus a global statistic would be more interesting.
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 Winghaven
on 09/05/09, 21:38:57 GMT |
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LAN events and money competitions ( online or offline )should count more than on-line events without prizes like EC for example.
and I played the EuroCup 17 final with impact and won it! xD
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mosby
on 09/05/09, 21:49:35 GMT |
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strange, neither CB nor Gamestv.org show you in the lineup. but on CB Impact only has 5 players at the final so i guess the admin forgot you or something.
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 ToX
on 10/05/09, 12:31:47 GMT |
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jak didnt play, i played the whole season with impact. mztik played the semifinal, and part of the final afaik, wing played 1 map or something, or merced in another game of that cup cos i remember playing with him and against him in the playoffs :D
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mosby
on 10/05/09, 10:40:05 GMT |
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I'll change the title because I agree the title doesn't fit the researched period. Though I chose deliberately for this range of time because in my opinion there's been a change in ET since around June 2007 with the Crossfire Challenges. So I wanted to show that over the last two years a lot has changed compared to the years before that.
That quote is the only situation where I didn't have the full lineup. If you want to know all my resources; I just looked up every match on GamesTV.org till I was (99%) certain I had all the players that played for the clan in a particular tournament and thus deserved the medal.
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 mst
on 10/05/09, 11:04:44 GMT |
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About final of ECXVII.
The lineup in this match was:
drago, snoop, reload, winghaven, toxic, mztik
According to your "research" it's:
drago, snoop, reload, night, jakazc
That changes your 'ranking' a bit. You could just play the replay or read the comments @ gtv...
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 Shuki
on 10/05/09, 14:04:45 GMT |
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Yeh and keran kicked both your asses. Wouldn't have believed it but it's in an article so it must be true.
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 ki7o
on 10/05/09, 17:14:52 GMT |
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Sry to write this but the title of your article is a complete mismatch with it's content. You did not include Nations Cup (and SHG open if i'm correct) which holds prestige similar to EC/CC making the article completly pointless by defining the most succesful players only on these 2 events.
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 yamyamyam
on 11/05/09, 10:50:12 GMT |
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The trophies and tournament names are very poorly aligned, you should put them into the same table (as you did with the number of trophies/medals ([medal] #)).
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Leonneke
on 11/05/09, 15:06:05 GMT |
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Okay, I have no clue where you get your information. But that full list of players? Apparently I won 1 silver medal. I even see Lightning down there with ONLY 1 bronze medal.
What leagues do you get your stuff from?
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 evan
on 11/05/09, 18:32:47 GMT |
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I do not think the methodology is really appropriate. I have nothing against Snoop but he is clearly the least successful player in the top ten and the system is obviously flawed in a number of obvious ways.
It would been better to create two different tables: one for LAN events and another for online events. Then either attribute a points-system to each event (Eurocup's are not equal to Crossfire Challenges) or pick an arbitrary number and mark players down, e.g. everyone starts at one then only the player who won every single LAN event hosted can get the full points (which is no one - even Night!).
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evan
on 11/05/09, 21:49:26 GMT |
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It is not a mathematical view on who is most successful. It is an accurate view on who is most successful using mathematics to help form a transparent well formed conclusion.
I think it is generally accepted that most top players have stopped caring about Eurocup to some degree, and while it is definitely an achievement to win three Eurocup's in a row it does not make Snoop the most successful player. He did not - for example - even finish in the top three at CC6. There is nothing wrong with finishing sixth but your chart does not take into account finishes other than first (realistically). And as far as I am aware even the Olympics provide two separate medals lists to show who won the most golds and medals overall.
If I were in your position (I was at one point) then I would simply ask the players or respected members of the community before embarking on something like this in future. Even if it is confirm line-ups etc. Nice work nevertheless.
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 twister
on 12/05/09, 21:26:23 GMT |
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Clanbase has a well structured hall of fame, it takes almost no efforts to find the lineups of final games. Good work never the less but I do agree it would have been more interesting if you would have taken more events into account and created a points system etc.
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mosby
on 12/05/09, 16:00:11 GMT |
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'I chose to count all gold, silver and bronze medals won in the Clanbase Eurocup or at a Crossfire LAN event between June 2007 and now.'
Quakecon was in 2005 and in 2006..
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 Superboyy
on 07/06/09, 14:44:49 GMT |
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nice. but useless. someone should update the et & money article where players are ranked by amount of money they made playing et
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