U of Alberta dean stole speech: med students

Medical students at the University of Alberta are disappointed after they say their dean copied a graduation speech.

Students say a speech given by dean of medicine Philip Baker during a convocation banquet Friday night, which told personal stories about how medical science has helped his wife and children, was lifted from a talk given by surgeon Atul Gawande at Stanford University's 2010 medical school convocation.

"It was a phenomenal speech.… I was very impressed with the speech. It was very eloquently given and reflected very well on the evening," said medical student Jonathan Zaozirny, who was there for Baker's remarks.

But when students looked up parts of the speech online later in the evening, Zaozirny said, they learned the speech was not written by Baker.

"The speech that we just received from the dean was word for word — minus a few small changes, changing Stanford medical school to University of Alberta medical school, erasing a few lines about medicare in the United States — but other than that, it was word for word … and it was a bit of a shock."

Zaozirny said Baker even included a pause in the speech's introduction.

"When you read the manuscript of the previous speech, it's exactly how it was given in 2010, even with the pause," he said.

"I can understand he's a phenomenally busy guy — he has a big job and he's got a lot of things to do — but there's also a certain responsibility. I mean, we just graduated from medical school after four long years of work, and I think we kind of deserved our own speech."

Zaozirny said he was dismayed by the revelation.

"The story we were given was very personal and there was a lot of very personal things … that were said to us, and it was never really referenced that he was giving a speech written by someone else," he said.

"There's several parts where he talks about one of his children becoming ill, his wife having medical problems, he describes a patient that he had — which is not a patient that he had — and it's a very personal story … and it was a very good story, it's just the things that happened in the story didn't happen to him."

Gawande's commencement address at Stanford was republished in the New Yorker magazine, for which he is a staff writer. In it, Gawande, also a professor of surgery at Harvard University, mentions his wife's two miscarriages and his first-born child's arterial birth defect.

Zaozirny said the speech would not have been an issue if Baker had attributed it to its author.

"To reference that much of a speech, of someone else's work, 15 full minutes of a speech basically word for word and not give any indication it's not yours, … that's what disappoints me more than anything," he said. "I would like an apology, or at least an explanation."

Class president Brittany Barber, in a statement written on behalf of the students, said the incident is disappointing.

"The University of Alberta medical school has given us tremendous academic support and has worked hard to provide a program of educational excellence," she said.

"To realize all this hard work may be marred by this unanticipated incident is very disheartening to the students. People should know that we will not stand for this academic dishonesty, and our deepest wish is that this incident does not reflect poorly on the integrity of our class, the medical school and, ultimately, the university."

Baker, an obstetrician-gynecologist who has been dean at U of A since 2009, has not been reached for comment.

149 comments

  • Jennifer C
    Jennifer C 2 days ago
    oops lol typo if none of what HE spoke actually happened to him than the speech was an out an out lie.
  • Kelly
    Kelly 2 days ago
    If a student were caught with a stolen paper, changing only a few sentences and omitting info that would clearly show the work was not his - he would be expelled. Call for the Dean's resignation. The school's credibility is at stake and any other action will not suffice in the eyes of the students.
  • maram k
    maram k 2 days ago
    Thats funny because in university, they will hound you if you, according to them, cite improperly and it is punishable by expulssion, so what happens to the dean, a role model, who intentionally plagerizes? Diddly squat
  • Stephen Carter
    Stephen Carter 2 days ago
    One wonders what else the Dean of Medicine has stolen. Plagerism of the written word is a crime but plagerism of a man's spirit, his soul and his emotions go beyond the pale. The Dean should be fired but he won't be and in one week all will be forgotten, Shame, for shame!
  • Ludo
    Ludo 2 days ago
    What a bum! He even kept personal bits in the speech that didn't happen to him and passed them off as his own experience- so disrespectful to the graduating students and to the author of the speech.
  • Kent
    Kent 2 days ago
    I was a professor in the Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry for 34 years. We always taught the highest standards of academic work and to have the Dean fly in the face of the accepted standards of the University is not acceptable. A student could be banned from the university for a year if found guilty of plagerism. Perhaps the same punishment should be given to the Dean. It would show that the same academic standards apply to both student and staff. Fairness requires that he lose his job for academic dishonesty.
  • Dormouse
    Dormouse 2 days ago
    Hahaha, Silly Dean! Don't you know about plagiarism rules in your own establishment?
  • Avocado
    Avocado 2 days ago
    Isn't this considered cheating? How did he get into med school in the first place, let alone being a dean of an university?
  • 2 days ago
    Plagiarism is a low form of fraud, and the fact that the dean thought he could get away with it demonstrates his ignorance and lack of respect for his students, not to mention the man he stole the speech from. I hope very much this story will have wings.
  • Seng
    Seng 2 days ago
    In this age of internet; google and youtube.... what was he thinking?
  • northernuranium
    northernuranium 2 days ago
    Wow that is so lazy, especially when he could have stated at the beginning, "This is a speech that was given at the Stanford medical school convication, but its words ring true for this class as well..." or something to that effect. I can't help but wonder if he is responsible for kicking anyone out of the U of A for plagerism, would be interesting to find out!
  • Jennifer C
    Jennifer C 2 days ago
    I'm sorry but if none of what I spoke actually happened to him than the speech he gave was an out an out lie, and I'd say he owes those grads more than just an apology. I would never hire someone for a position that holds the importance as the one his does, who doesn't know the value of Honesty! That's absurd! What's this world coming too??
  • MIZEREBEL
    MIZEREBEL 2 days ago
    To think that if a student had done this they would be charge with academic misconduct and plagarism by this same Dean. I hope there is a consequence for this because a student would definitely had been punished by the university for doing something like this. Shame on this Dean.
  • Darryl
    Darryl 2 days ago
    Sad, sad, sad, way to go bringing shame on Edmonton, and the U of Alberta.
  • Tricia
    Tricia 2 days ago
    He should be fired immediately if he lacks the shame to resign. Someone in his position who so willfully disrespects his students, his university and himself like that has absolutely no business in the role of Dean or as a university professor of any rank.
  • Furry
    Furry 2 days ago
    I feel bad for the students.... doesn't illustrate a university that takes plagerism seriously, does it? And from the dean himself?... disgraceful!
  • Diamondbella
    Diamondbella 2 days ago
    That was very inconsiderate of him to do to fake a speech.
    yes that was very lazy and he need to give an explanation
    it makes u wonder what else he fakes and if he really cares.
  • jason
    jason 2 days ago
    What a douche
  • skippy
    skippy 2 days ago
    I went to the U of Alberta. If you plagiarize, you get expelled. If a dean does this, will he be fired?
  • myword
    myword 2 days ago
    I trust that the university has a plagarism policy and it is followed- the same as when a student gets caught. Too busy- I am sure his income could afford a speech writer.