The Gillmor Gang


The Gillmor Gang

Steve Gillmor, contributing editor, ZDNet
Doc Searls, senior editor, Linux Journal
Jon Udell, lead analyst, InfoWorld Test Center
Dana Gardner, senior analyst, Yankee Group


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The Gillmor Gang, with guest Dan Bricklin -- February 4, 2005
The Gillmor Gang asks guest Dan Bricklin, president of Software Garden, what innovations are on his radar. Dan's answers include the trend to large amounts of storage that allow a store-now-think-later approach, mobility, cheap CPU power and IP connectivity everywhere. We're seeing success from those who plan for, or at least enable unintended consequences. "Google caught everyone by surprise," by using the population to generate the connection database, says Dan. The gang digs into the benefits of pervasive devices that can share with others and considers whether evolution shows us how markets work. Is there a technology ecosystem? And what's new in interfaces? Google again. And Flash (and to some extent DHTML and JavaScript), which allow us to developed rich controls again. (The Gillmor Gang audio on IT Conversations.)
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The Gillmor Gang, special guest, Stephen Hill -- January 28, 2005
The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations...

Steve calls in from the Integrated Media Association's New Media Summit with his special guest, Stephen Hill. The talk is all about the convergence of radio (most notably public radio) and "new media" if that term even makes sense any longer. That convergence is due to digital technologies and the fact that it's now possible for nearly anyone to create broadcast-quality audio with a very small investment in equipment. Stephen reminds us that even FM radio isn't very old, having become popular in the mid 1960s, when broadcasters even supplied the receiver. (Hey...sounds like satellite today!)

Public radio in the U.S. has more than 20 million subscribers, but the public-radio insfrastructure has become a bottleneck in its own right. (Is NPR the "Clear Channel of public radio?")

Is podcasting the next step for independently produced audio? It was an important topic at the New Media Summit. The consensus is that podcasting is still in Geeksville mode, but it's real close. What business model will prevail? Stephen thinks it's bundle-and-charge aggregation, and sees at least one segment of public radio going to a $240/year model.

But if there's an explosion of content, how will we sort our way through it? Will it be something like Attention.xml, or will we rely on more traditional systems like individual or group editors? An important development may be the Personal Service Publisher proposal (PDF) presented at the conference.

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The Gillmor Gang, Guests: Stephen O'Grady and Rafat Ali -- January 21, 2005
This week it's all about blogging and RSS with The Gang's special guests, Rafat Ali and Stephen O'Grady. Does Bloglines represent the tipping point for blogs? What about blogs in the corporate world? Is there a role for blogs in business processes? And do blogs make companies more transparent? Blogs are simple and valuable, so why aren't they part of IBM or Micorosoft's plans for their collaborative-software products? (The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations.)
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The Gillmor Gang, with guest Adam Bosworth -- January 14, 2005
(The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations) Adam Bosworth, now Google's VP of Engineering, joins The Gang this week to discuss his vision for the future of search architecture. "How do you handle data that's much less known up front and where the query is by relevance?" Adam asks. Most of today's databases are built on the relational model, but most of today's queries are not. Instead they're looking for keyword precision, location and semantic context -- not a textual or numeric match. The relational model is designed for use when both the data and the queries can be anticipated, but in today's world, neither are typically known in advance.

Adam suggests that the same divide-and-conquer architectures used to make web servers more scalable could be used in search. He envisions data routers that will know which back-end servers have which knowledge and will query servers asynchronously according to the liklihood of getting the best results.

The discussion then turns to the topic of attention and the technology and politics of knowing who's reading what on the Internet. XML-based RSS and Atom have created both the challenge and the opportunity.

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The Gillmor Gang, Guests: Robert Scoble and Sam Whitmore -- January 7, 2005
(The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations) It's CES week and The Gang is joined by guests Sam Whitmore and Robert Scoble. While the old-guard media talks about the latest gadgets premiering at CES, The Gang explores what's going on behind the scenes. Will Robert defend Bill Gate's Communism remark? Is HP hedging its bets by supporting both Microsoft and Linux-based entertainment systems? What about the architecture: Will there be PCs in our living rooms, or will they just be entertainment peripherals? And will anyone buy this media-center stuff or is it really too expensive?

TiVo will take a hit as PVRs are built-into TVs. Doc reports that the FCC is well aware of what might happen and what restructuring of telcos and cable may be required when the demand side (people) become suppliers of programming. And there's a hint that cars could become open systems -- backplanes for multimedia and other devices.

Podcasting at CES? Not this year. Few seem to have even heard of it yet. (Are iPods and iTunes Apple's Roach Motel?) The Gang looks to the future and how distribution and syndication will change. Will BigMedia companies adapt? And how will the entertainment industry change when the demand side competes with the supply side for shelf space?

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The Gillmor Gang -- December 31, 2004
(The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations) This week The Gang digs deeper into digital identity with a panel of experts. It begins as a Kumbaya of identity vendors and technologies, but by the second half the gloves come off. Craig points out that everyone has built silos so far because there have been no alternatives. Is the idea of a Microsoft silo "old fashioned thinking," as Kim suggests, defending the company he joined not all that long ago? He then presents the first five of his seven Laws of Identity -- clearly well thought out and vendor independent as all agree. Everyone also agrees that no identity solution can succeed without the cooperation and participation of Microsoft, but Dave is skeptical given the company's history in identity management. Phil points out that PKI hasn't succeded, and Kim suggests it's because PKI violated his 4th Law of Identity. And Doc suggests that digital identity needs a 'key personality' in the same way as Dave has played a lead role in RSS and blogging. Make sure you listen to this one all the way through.
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The Gillmor Gang, Special Guest Mitchell Kertzman -- December 24, 2004
(The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations - audio) The Gang looks back on 2004 and forecasts the year to come. Guest Mitch Kertzman gives us his latest focus as a venture capitalist: the software-development process and software as a service and pay-for-use models. The Gillmor Gang looks at the recent flurry of BigCo M&A; activity, the commoditization of computing at various levels in the hardware/software stack, tech CEOs as bloggers, collaboration, and software reusability. And yes, there's a year-end look at podcasting.
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The Gillmor Gang, Doug & Steve -- December 17, 2004
In lieu of a new edition of The Gillmor Gang this week, Doug and Steve suggest listenting to our mid-week show all about digital identity. Also, Doug brings us up-to-date on what to expect from IT Conversations programs over the next few months.
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The Gillmor Gang, The Gang Gets Geeky with Phil Windley -- December 14, 2004
(Audio: The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations) With a preview of his forthcoming book from O'Reilly Media, Phil Windley joins The Gang to share his insights on digital identity. The result is an excellent Digital Identity 101 by Professor Windley. Phil explains the differences between virtual directories, metadirectories, centralized directories and federated identity. Other topics include Shibboleth, role-based authentication, SAML, the Liberty Alliance, and SXIP. Also, what's the potential role of DNS in identity management, who controls identity (users or vendors), and who will be the winners and losers in the identity-management game?
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The Gillmor Gang, Special Guest: Shai Agassi -- December 10, 2004
(The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations - audio) The Gang digs into SAP this week with guest Shai Agassi, SAP executive board member. SAP has a reputation of being less than fully open, and Shai makes the case for the company's new architecture, a single-box solution with integrated application server and applications. The discussion covers the commoditization of applications versus interfaces via web services, grid computing, SAP for mid-sized businesses, and Oracle's attempted takeover of PeopleSoft. And don't miss The Gang's wrap-up after Shai leaves.
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The Gillmor Gang, with Ray Ozzie and Peter O'Kelly -- December 6, 2004
The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations: Happy Birthday Lotus Notes! You're twenty year old today. Well, 20 years from announcement and 15 from the launch of Release 1. In any case, Lotus Notes has left a permanent mark on the history of collaboration software. On this special occasion, The Gang is joined by Notes creator Ray Ozzie (who went on to found Groove Networks in October 1997) and a member of the early Notes team, Peter O'Kelly, now an analyst with Burton Group.

Lotus Notes was arguably the first groupware product, and Ray explains why the company had such a difficult time explaining what it was. That tide turned when Notes was adopted by VARs who created the vertical applications that have made the product so successful. To this day Notes is respected for its rapid-application development (RAD) architecture and its ability to just deploy the prototype.

The discussion goes well beyond Lotus Notes, as Ray and Peter give their big-picture perspectives on collaboration, client/server architectures, and the bifurcation of technology adoption: the difference between deployment within and outside the enterprise.

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The Gillmor Gang, with Jonathan Schwartz -- November 25, 2004
The Gillmor Gang (audio) on IT Conversations for November 25, 2004. Steve Gillmor (ZDNet), Doc Searls (Linux Journal), Jonathan Schwartz (Sun Microsystems), Dana Gardner (Yankee Group) and Michael Vizard (CRN Magazine).
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The Gillmor Gang, Guest: Jeff McManus of eBay -- November 18, 2004
The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations: The Gang's guest this week is eBay technology evangelist, Jeff McManus. The company's web-services APIs process one billion requests per month. (That's an average of nearly 2,500 per second!) Hear how 11,000 developers are helping 430,000 people in the U.S. alone make a full- or part-time living via eBay, why the eBay trust system works, and how they're starting to use RSS.
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The Gillmor Gang -- November 12, 2004
(The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations)

This week The Gang starts off wondering about Chris Stone's departure from Novell, which he was steering back towards the Linux market. And what about Sun? Are they serious about Linux on the desktop, or is that just a poker chip, a placemark for their real move into software-as-service?

Speaking of software-as-service, The Gang dives head-first into Google. Jon says Gmail is "seductively powerful," but is Google on the path to becoming The Borg? Will we have to turn to turn to (gasp) Microsoft to save us? Or will Google continue to be our best buddy?

The show concludes with a discussion of podcasting: its potential business models and its ultimate effect on Big Media.

Michael Vizard, editor-in-chief of CRN Magazine, joins The Gang this week.

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The Gillmor Gang -- November 5, 2004
(The Gillmor Gang on IT Conversations). Steve and The Gang may be suffering from post-election traumatic-stress syndrome. They consider the effect of the election on technology and vice versa. Reviewing a clip from a presentation by Thomas Barnett, they ask: Is keeping the peace really a system-administraton problem? The U.S. is clearly divided, even polarized. But is it dynamically stable or will it soon tip in one direction or another? And what is the effect of information (including blogging) on the country and the election process? Is there too much data for most people to absorb and understand?
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The Gillmor Gang -- October 22, 2004
The extended Gang dives deep into podcasting this week with Dave Winer, Adam Curry and three of the four members of the Firesign Theatre: David Ossman, Philip Proctor and Peter Bergman. Adam and Dave give the history (all eight weeks of it) and the raison d'être of podcasting, and Steve suggests it's similar to the early days of pirate radio. Is podcasting just a flash in the pan, or a major challenge to big-business radio? Will the impact be similar to that of blogs or something altogether different? What are the implications of Howard Stern moving to satellite, and will legislation like the INDUCE Act inhibit freedom of speech in the exploding podcasting phenomenon? By the end of the show, the Firesign guests not only get it, they're guzzling the Cool-Aid.
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The Gillmor Gang -- October 15, 2004
The Gillmor Gang: Google Desktop Search is this week's hot topic even though Doc isn't happy that it's not available on either Mac or Linux. No doubt it's a powerful personal tool, but what does it mean for IT departments? If it sneaks in at the desktop level, what about security and privacy? For that matter, what does it mean that "the application sends non-personal information about things like the application's performance and reliability to Google?"

Does Microsoft continue to have a blindspot for search? There were rumors of a pending Google browser. Is this even better for the company and for us? What's the commercial value for Google, and will Yahoo! follow suit? Finally, is GDS just a platform for additional services?

All of this plus the podcasting phenomenon on another chock-full edition of The Gillmor Gang. This week's special guests are Scott MacGregor (Mozilla Thunderbird architect) and Brendan Eich (chief architect) of the Mozilla Foundation.

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The Gillmor Gang -- October 8, 2004
On The Gillmor Gang, CEO Kim Polese explains what her new company, SpikeSource, is all about: making open source safe for IT by aggregating best-of-breed components. Kim believes this is part of a fundamental shift in the way the software industry works, and many Gang members agree.
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The Gillmor Gang -- October 2, 2004
Recorded live at Gnomedex 4.0, the Gang digs into audioblogging and podcasting. What's it all about? Is it a fad, a future trend, or here today and to stay? And what about the state of RSS? Is there too much content, a glut of information?
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The Gillmor Gang -- September 24, 2004
This week The Gillmor Gang tackles a little bit of everything. Sun announced CPU time on demand, but where's the real opportunity? Is it for loosely coupled systems? For remotely hosted on-demand Windows? Technology is advancing fastest for consumers and SMBs, so is that the best place to try new ideas? The iPod platform is suddenly taking off including RSS integration. Does this portend something for the enterprise? Joining The Gang this week are Scott Rafer, president and CEO of Feedster, and Stephen Shankland, senior staff writer at CNET News.com.
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The Gillmor Gang -- September 16, 2004
Ray Ozzie is the guest on the latest edition of The Gillmor Gang. The lead developer of Notes and the founder of Groove Networks joins The Gang to look at big-picture issues. Innovation no longer flows from IT out, but from the consumer world to IT, and most innovation and growth is at the edge of the network. iPods are caches for iTunes on the desktops, which are in turn caches for the iTunes store. What does the future hold for VoIP and Skype, and what do the recent Longhorn announcements mean for ISVs? CRN's Michael Vizard returns as a Gang member.
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The Gillmor Gang -- September 3, 2004
Along with guest Michael Vizard, and with a week to think about it, The Gang considers the ramifications of Microsoft's Longhorn announcement: the stock market's non-reaction; implications for the channel and storage vendors; alternative user interfaces vs. Avalon/XAML.
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The Gillmor Gang -- August 27, 2004
The Gillmor Gang analyzes today's hot news: Microsoft will ship Longhorn in 2006 as originally announced, but without some important components. Is this good news or bad? Consider that they made the announcement late on a Friday. The Gang considers what this means for Microsoft, IT customers, open source and competitors.

Dave Sifry, founder and CEO of Technorati, and Mary Jo Foley, author of Ziff Davis' Microsoft-Watch.com, join The Gang. Ross Mayfield, CEO of Socialtext, is our special guest this week.

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The Gillmor Gang -- August 20, 2004
Steve Gillmor and Technorati's David L. Sifry have been working on something called Attention.xml for nearly a year, and this week they discuss the concept with the rest of The Gang. What is it? It's a specification for tracking, prioritizing and sharing what people are reading, looking at or listenting to in RSS and elsewhere.
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The Gillmor Gang -- August 13, 2004
Fresh from a great presentation at the O'Reilly Open Source Convention, R0ml Lefkowitz joins The Gillmor Gang including guest Gang member, Michael Vizard, to discuss the corporate IT world. Will Windows XP SP2 allow Microsoft to claim its products are more secure? Why can't large organizations move away from IE? (Why should they care?) Why aren't more vertical applications available in open source? And why do vendors open-source their proprietary code such as Sun's plan to release Solaris 10?
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The Gillmor Gang -- August 6, 2004
The Gillmor Gang, August 8, 2004. Some of the Gang members report from Linux World. (Doc says it's too much about what the vendors are doing. [clip].) Our guests from RealNetworks discuss their plans to open source components of their Helix line of products. They're using two licenses: GPL for open source and a commercial license for manufacturers who can't be bound by the GPL. Jon Udell continues to explain the need for random-access players and supporting URLs [clip] and standards and why he thinks players will ultimately become authoring tools. Dana Gardner weighs in on why multimedia has yet to catch on in the corporate world.
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The Gillmor Gang -- July 29, 2004
Dave Winer has had a huge impact on the Internet as we know it. Blogging and RSS? They might not exist if it weren't for Dave. Live from the Democratic National Convention, Dave joined The Gillmor Gang to discuss ConventionBloggers.com and the reaction it has received from the traditional press who have no idea what's under the covers. Dave says the DNC is "truly visionary" and have accepted this "technology transplant" but they probably don't realize what they've done. This could be the the turning point for RSS--when it becomes just another part of the infrastructure.

Where will blogging and RSS go? Deeper into local politics? Are RSS and the web as powereful as talk radio on a 50,000-watt AM station? Dave and The Gang also debate the importance and future of audio blogging and the need to link to or excerpt multimedia content. It's one thing to download a one-hour show to an iPod, but when you can blog a sound bite as easily as you can a text byte, then look for a boom. You'll hear this and much more in another great edition of The Gillmor Gang.

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The Gillmor Gang -- July 22, 2004
Our special guest, Dave Sifry, founder and CEO of Technorati, will be providing real-time analysis of the political blogosphere for CNN at next week's Democratic National Convention. Dave discusses this announcement and gives us his social and technical insights into Technorati: "tracking patterns of influence and authority in real time." 140+ servers give Technorati a huge grid-computing system, and Dave explains how their technology is different from traditional search engines. On open-source software, "We wouldn't exist without it." He even goes deep into the Postgres/MySQL debate.
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The Gillmor Gang -- July 9, 2004
Is this the start of Browser War II? Can Mozilla-based browsers corner 6% of the market by year end? And if they do, will they be targeted by the same crackers who go after IE flaws? Does the potential for "tag soup" sound like what Microsoft did to the browser market in 1996? This week's special guest is Brendan Eich, chief architect, Mozilla Foundation.
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The Gillmor Gang -- July 1, 2004
Special guest: Jonathan Schwartz (Sun) and guest Gang member, Michael Vizard (CRN Magazine). Solaris goes open source. Is Sun the low-cost provider because their oeprating system cost-of-goods sold are essentially zero? Will IBM buy Novell to acquire SUSE Linux?. Will Schwartz succeed in prioritizing its sales (and compensating its staff) according to the NPV of products and services? Will Wall Street let him do it? The Gang assesses the futures of Sun and its new president.
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The Gillmor Gang -- June 25, 2004
Special guests: Esther Dyson, chairman of EDventure Holdings (CNet), and Dan Farber, Editor, ZDNet/CNet. The program was recorded at Supernova 2004.
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The Gillmor Gang -- June 18, 2004
Are the venture investors back? Are they putting money into open-source software? What about Java--is it still an important platform? Should Sun make it open source?

With special guest Mitchell Kertzman, Partner at Hummer Winblad Venture Partners, the Gillmor Gang tackles these questions as well as DRM, and of course RSS.

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The Gillmor Gang -- June 4, 2004
Guest: Michael Vizard, editor-in-chief, CRN Magazine

CA's CEO resigns. Sun announces open-source Solaris. As the PC becomes more powerful, will desktops become servers? Is the middleware market as we've know it dying due to open source (JBoss)? Does IBM just talk the open-source talk? How are vendors creating their open-source strategies?Are applications and services the only remaining battlegrounds? Trends follow the talent, so where is the talent going? Globalization? The Gillmor Gang plays Vendor Sports: Who will win? Who will become the JetBlue of IT services?

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The Gillmor Gang -- May 28, 2004
Web services, SOAs, commodity IT and open source. Which vendors will survive and how will they do it? Why are they pushing suites when web services were all about best-of-breed components? This week's special guest is Dan Farber, ZDNet Editor.
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The Gillmor Gang -- May 21, 2004
Guest: Mary Jo Foley, author of Ziff Davis' Microsoft-Watch.com
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The Gillmor Gang -- May 14, 2004
Guest: Michael Vizard, editor-in-chief, CRN Magazine
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